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Tony in KS

06-27-2003 20:11:51




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My neighbor is selling a small round bailer for $250. Is that a good deal? Will my 1953 JD 40 be enough to power that bailer?




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COKE

07-06-2003 16:08:22




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 Re: Small round bailer in reply to Tony in KS, 06-27-2003 20:11:51  
Tony,
Did you buy the roto-baler?
If you did I have a operators manual supplement you might want. Thanks, COKE Mesquite,TX



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Thank you for your input,

06-30-2003 11:00:51




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 Re: Small round bailer in reply to Tony in KS, 06-27-2003 20:11:51  



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Dan in Ore

06-28-2003 22:42:44




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 Re: Small round bailer in reply to Tony in KS, 06-27-2003 20:11:51  
We use one when I was a kid. Having to stop while each bale tied was a pain. handling the bales afterward was next to impossible. Hauling was a real pain. Wouldn't go back to that for anything.

Just my $.02 worth.

Dan



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Joe (tx)

06-28-2003 19:29:03




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 Re: Small round bailer in reply to Tony in KS, 06-27-2003 20:11:51  
You did not mention a brand or model. I assume ,like every one else, you are talking about the Allis chalmers Roto baler which bales a 14-22 in dia. bale and not the larger ones which bale a 48 or 60 inch dia. bale. These are considered small round balers around here. The 40 would not be able to handle these.



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Dave K

06-28-2003 13:04:31




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 Re: Small round bailer in reply to Tony in KS, 06-27-2003 20:11:51  
Another item on the AC Rotobaler, you need to roll together two windrows before you bale them. It will not make nice even bales on a single, narrow windrow. Nice thing is the bales can lay in the field, rain and snow don't matter much, even if outside darkens they will be good inside as long as you baled dry hay or straw to start with.

Dave



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Rick

06-28-2003 04:29:22




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 Re: Small round bailer in reply to Tony in KS, 06-27-2003 20:11:51  
it depends on the belts. I have a pair of real nice ones,one has new belts. Both are for sale if interested.



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Doug in OR

06-27-2003 21:27:51




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 Re: Small round bailer in reply to Tony in KS, 06-27-2003 20:11:51  
Your JD will pull it easily. Question: Does it have live pto? Without live PTO, the rotobaler is a real pain to operate. I handled and baled many a roto bale when I was young. Never again!



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Dave K

06-27-2003 21:03:10




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 Re: Small round bailer in reply to Tony in KS, 06-27-2003 20:11:51  
If it is the AC rotobaler it is a real nice unit for small bales, you can handle them by hand. It was made to run originally with the AC Model WD tractor. You need about 25-30 HP on the PTO. There are some tricks of the trade to use them and they need binder twine. Manuals are available. We used one for 15 years on a family dairy for hay and straw. You do need a live PTO, one that runs when the clutch is disengaged as you have to stop for each bale with the baler still running, thus the two clutches on the WD's

Dave

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Hp????

06-30-2003 09:15:21




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 Re: Re: Small round bailer in reply to Dave K, 06-27-2003 21:03:10  
I think your horse power suggestions are a little high. The roto baler woudl work great behind a CA and would work fine behind a C or even a B. The problem is that a CA and a WD had the hand clutches which allowed you to stop and tie a bale.

It doesn't take much power to run a roto baler I would suggest that it likely takes less than a square baler.



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JMS/MN

06-27-2003 22:01:17




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 Re: Re: Small round bailer in reply to Dave K, 06-27-2003 21:03:10  
No, you do not NEED a live pto, but it is nice. My Dad bought a rotobaler in 1948 and did not have a live pto until 1956, with the WD45. Before that, we put up with what we could afford. And we baled up to 65 acres per year with it.



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chuck

06-27-2003 21:02:48




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 Re: Small round bailer in reply to Tony in KS, 06-27-2003 20:11:51  
make sure u have an agco dealer close by and hopefully some one who knows about the ac roto baler--i think they are great-- i bale and leave it in the field--then in the winter move electric fence to include 4-5 days of feed. no hauling winter or summer. the belts are important--if shot they are $400-500 to replace. the main problem people have is trying to bale too wet--baler wont do well --all kinds of malfuntions--let it dry out and its a go--when leaving them in the field i dont even use twine--but if picking them up--be sure to use "NEW" twine. biggest thing to me is to have live power--but a lot are run with H's and small ac with out live power. have fun with it--i think its a great machine.

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Sid

06-27-2003 20:49:39




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 Re: Small round bailer in reply to Tony in KS, 06-27-2003 20:11:51  
If it is an Allis the only one I have heard of and you want to mess with the small round bales in my opinion yes it is worth it. As for the tractor they did not require a lot of Horsepower but live power makes it so much nicer. Around here a lot of hay was baled with the round baler and tractors without live power I know the old timers around here were thrilled wihen live power came along.



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