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Alternator conversion for CA

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kent

05-15-2003 11:07:30




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I have a 1952 CA. It's a working tractor and i'm wanting to convert it to an alternator and 12 volts. i have a couple of questions:
1. what is the best alternator to use? it needs to have a small body because the steering rod goes right by the generator now and there's not much clearance!!!
2. Can i still use the 6 volt coil?
3. if i go to twelve volts should i use a ballast resistor?
thanks in advance, Kent

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Steve in N.J.

05-16-2003 22:22:41




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 Re: alternator conversion for CA in reply to kent, 05-15-2003 11:07:30  
Kent, We offer a 12V Conversion for B,C,CA machines. Because of your clearance problem with the steering link, we could fix ya up with the pint size CS130 Delco. In our 12V kits, we offer a custom alternator bracket, proper switches, and a "quick disconnect" w/built-in diode. I also offer the correct 12V coil to eliminate the resistor. Drop us a line if interested.....
Steve/B&B Custom Circuits

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Dave Grubb

05-16-2003 08:02:10




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 Re: alternator conversion for CA in reply to kent, 05-15-2003 11:07:30  
It makes for a little neater and easier installation to use a 12 volt coil with an internal resistor. Any NAPA store can supply one. Don't forget to change light bulbs too.



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Doug in OR

05-15-2003 21:53:20




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 Re: alternator conversion for CA in reply to kent, 05-15-2003 11:07:30  
Over in the "articles" section under "research and info", they have a good primer on converting to 12 volts. Read that over good, it will answer your questions.



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steve

05-15-2003 15:38:55




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 Re: alternator conversion for CA in reply to kent, 05-15-2003 11:07:30  
Tyler pretty well hit it on the head. MOst people use a very common DELCO alternator from a 1975-1985 Chevy. Proble is it is a little big. You can use a later model GM alternator from 1990, or a Japaneese version that is also small. You want to make sure you get one that has a internal voltage regulator. Most built after 1985 will have this. Old DELCO is by far the cheapest, but you can find smaller ones. I will send you a diagram for a "generic version". I would recomment the diode (i prefer a 10 ohm resistor) in the signal line. makes the alternator charge at a lower RPM cut in and will eliminate run on after shut off.

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Tyler(WA)

05-15-2003 13:54:53




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 Re: alternator conversion for CA in reply to kent, 05-15-2003 11:07:30  
The first thing you need to do is make sure your tractor is wired for negative ground. Alternators are negative ground while generators usually run positive ground. You can swap the battery and amp meter leads and usually be done with it because the starter will turn the same way regardless.

You will have to add a balast resistor to the coil if you don't swap it for a 12v coil.

Concerning which alternator.... I had a similar situation on my MF-2135 and found a Nissan alternator worked perfectly. It was almost the same diameter as the generator and bolted up with no modification.

What you are looking for is an alternator with two additional terminals (usually spade lugs) along with the main output terminal that runs to the battery. These two terminals are the exciter and sense line.

Mount the alternator and connect the output lug to the battery or amp meter and put two short leads to the other terminals. With the engine running, touch each of the two terminals to the alternator output lug. One will draw a very small spark... that's the exciter lead. The other won't draw any spark because the sense lead is very high impedence. Tie the sense lead to the output lug and forget it.

Connect the exciter lead to your ignition switch. I usually tie it to the (+) side of the coil.

That usually is all you need but occasionally, some alternators will backfeed voltage out the exciter lead.

If that's the case with the alternator you end up with, your tractor will keep running after you turn the key off. Just shut the gas line off and let it die to kill it. Then, add a diode (Radio shack has them) that can handle several amps and put it inline with the coil wire to the exciter line. Diodes have a line painted at one end to identify the cathode end. Wire that end to the coil side and the other end to the alternator and you will block any backfeed from the alternator to the ignition.

Drop me an email if you need any additional tips or pictures.

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