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WD-45 or WD??

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Kent Alstat

04-25-2003 09:39:12




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My Dad just bought a WD or a WD-45. The serial # that is on the back side of left rear housing area shows # 132366. After looking at All Makes Tractor Tips this serial number falls between WD and WD45. Am I looking at the reference incorrectly?? It shows a WD45 as 146607 as the starting serial number for 1953 and this being the first year the WD45 was made. I will get the motor serial number and maybe this will help. Is there any other way to tell the two tractors apart other than the motor size?? Also it looks like original paint and stickers that say WD45. Thanks for the help. Kent

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JMS/MN

04-29-2003 00:27:13




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 Re: WD-45 or WD?? in reply to Kent Alstat, 04-25-2003 09:39:12  
If it has a straight shift lever it is a WD. If it has a curved shift lever, and a bolt-on panel on the right side of the engine it is an early 1953 WD. Later in 53, the WD45 came out, with the curved shift lever, and the engine block was solid on the right side, no removeable panel. The curved shift lever indicates the transmission with angle cut gears, rather than the straight cut gears of the WD. The motor serial number does not indicate the tractor model number- motors can be changed easily- the style of the engine block indicates which type of engine it is. The tractor serial number is on the rear differential.

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Kent Alstat

04-29-2003 15:01:52




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 Re: Re: WD-45 or WD?? in reply to JMS/MN, 04-29-2003 00:27:13  
Thanks to all that have given me ideas and help, I have been busy with other things and havn't got back to the tractor to verify the plate on the motor. I am pretty sure it has the curved shifter. Thanks Kent



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oly

04-26-2003 20:17:09




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 Re: WD-45 or WD?? in reply to Kent Alstat, 04-25-2003 09:39:12  
I think another clue is the gear shift lever, the 45 had a curved one... WD straight



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Kent Alstat

04-26-2003 07:23:23




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 Re: WD-45 or WD?? in reply to Kent Alstat, 04-25-2003 09:39:12  
Thanks for clearing up some of the differences between the two models. I guess then it is a WD with helical cut gears, unless someone put the kit in the motor to make it a 45??



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wdTom

04-25-2003 18:33:22




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 Re: WD-45 or WD?? in reply to Kent Alstat, 04-25-2003 09:39:12  
Sometimes the letters before the serial no. are faint, clean and scrape the area well and look carefully, you may see WD or 45 there. 45s had a curved seat support lever with an adjustable position shock mount. WDs had a bend on one place with two straight segments. Just another clue.



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DanD.

04-25-2003 14:59:18




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 Re: WD-45 or WD?? in reply to Kent Alstat, 04-25-2003 09:39:12  
Serial #132366 would make it a WD that does have the constant mesh transmission with the curved shifter. If all its parts are original, this tractor should have the curved shifter and the steel plate on the right side of the engine block.



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Mike(OH)

04-25-2003 21:03:56




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 Re: Re: WD-45 or WD?? in reply to DanD., 04-25-2003 14:59:18  
I thought the curved shifter on the late WD's meant that they had the constant mesh tranny??



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Phil Munson

04-26-2003 05:34:53




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 Re: Re: Re: WD-45 or WD?? in reply to Mike(OH), 04-25-2003 21:03:56  
I don't know what you mean by constant mesh, but the curved stick tractors, WD and WD-45, had helical cut transmission gears. The prior WDs had straight cut gears.



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wdTom

04-26-2003 14:46:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: WD-45 or WD?? in reply to Phil Munson, 04-26-2003 05:34:53  
The curved shiftlever transmission is a constant mesh type. All the gears are in mesh all the time. Dogs are shifted to engage different gears. You are not shifting gears, you are sifting dogs. With the exception of reverse, which I don't remember about.



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Mike(OH)

04-26-2003 05:49:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: WD-45 or WD?? in reply to Phil Munson, 04-26-2003 05:34:53  
Yea that was what I was trying to say.



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Brian G. NY

04-25-2003 16:11:18




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 Re: Re: WD-45 or WD?? in reply to DanD., 04-25-2003 14:59:18  
Yep, 1952 WD



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Bill

04-25-2003 09:51:36




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 Re: WD-45 or WD?? in reply to Kent Alstat, 04-25-2003 09:39:12  
a curved shift lever, lack of an adjustment plate for the valves on the block side, and lack of shutters are indicators of a 45.



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Phil Munson

04-25-2003 20:37:09




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 Re: Re: WD-45 or WD?? in reply to Bill, 04-25-2003 09:51:36  
About 25,000. WDs had the curved stick transmission lever. The plate on the side of the engine was only on the WCs and WDs; the block casting was U-3019



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