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AC D14 Starter problem

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Cathy in Oregon

04-14-2003 16:26:18




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Hi everyone. My AC has been down for almost a week. We can't find where the bolts are that hold the starter on.

Would someone kindly give me some help? I really need my tractor up and running. Thank you. I would really apreciate a picture or photo that my dad could look at. Since he is the one working on it. Thanks again for helping a damsel in distress!




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Jay miller

04-19-2003 06:26:50




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 Re: AC D14 Starter problem in reply to Cathy in Oregon, 04-14-2003 16:26:18  
Along with all the other helpful hints, here's what I had to do just this week on my D-14.
After installing new battery, cables,starter solenoid,new wire to starter switch,wire brushed starter housing real good,new bolt...once very 4 or 5 times all I got was a 'click', starter wouldn't go round. "Magically' removing the starter and puting it back made it work again,that time.
Finally got fed up with that routine, so I took the starter off and popped of the rear housing.ONE on the brushes was TOTALLY worn out ! It was probably damaged 20+ years ago( it sat for 'awhile'), maybe that's why I got a good deal on it.
Anyway, I took the end cap with the brushes to a local auto electrical repair shop. For 6 bucks they installed a new brush,screw and resoldered a bad wire.
Now Alice starts EVERY time with much more zing than before.

hope this helps
Jay in Greensville,Ont.

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JMS/MN

04-14-2003 21:46:31




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 Re: AC D14 Starter problem in reply to Cathy in Oregon, 04-14-2003 16:26:18  
Loosen the lock nut first, then unscrew the bolt. It should be a tapered bolt- remove it completely and then tap the body of the starter with a hammer to loosen it in the casting. May very well be stuck a bit tight after sitting so many years. Also, are you sure the starter is defective? Just because it doesn't turn the engine over does not mean it is the problem. Describe what is happening if you need more advice. Pulling the starter is not the normal first response to an engine not turning over.

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Cathy In Oregon

04-15-2003 08:57:31




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 Re: Re: AC D14 Starter problem in reply to JMS/MN, 04-14-2003 21:46:31  
The starter has been ready to go since we first got the tractor. My Dad has tried to recharge the battery, replaced the battery, etc.
I had shut the tractor off to close a gate and check on some stuff. When I got back on and pushed the button I heard nothing. Gas was on, key was turned, etc. It didn't even try to turn over. Not a sound. My Dad's hands are not so good when it comes to working on things (anymore) He can hold a nut and the nut will slip out from between his fingers w/o him even knowing it. My cousin was suposed to come by on Sunday and take a look. He has helped us out a lot since my Dad has such a hard time with working on things now. But he didn't show up. Oh well! The cousin is busy with work, moving and he likes to drink a lot. Needless to say, he is really busy (ha ha) I will print all this stuff out and give it to my Dad and see what he says. I will keep you all posted. Thank you all ever so much!
Cathy

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Bruce

04-15-2003 12:53:13




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 Re: Re: Re: AC D14 Starter problem in reply to Cathy In Oregon, 04-15-2003 08:57:31  
Do the lights work? If they worked before, and don't now, It's probably what JMS/MN said. If they do work, you can check the cable to the starter. Or ... get a charged battery and a pair of jumper cables and touch them directly to the starter. Then, if there is still no sound, you definately have an electrical problem in the starter - as you suspect.



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JMS/MN

04-15-2003 11:39:58




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 Re: Re: Re: AC D14 Starter problem in reply to Cathy In Oregon, 04-15-2003 08:57:31  
With electrical problems like you describe, I would first check the battery cables and clamps. Remove the clamps, steel brush or file off any corrosion, until you see bright lead on the post and the clamp. This often solves the problem. Also, that corrosion prevents the battery from being charged, so the battery might still need a jump the first time you want to start the engine. After that, the alternator/generator should keep it up if the battery is good. Also remove the cable to the starter and clean the end. Do the same to the ground cable from the battery. To retard further corrosion, wet the cable connections and then pour baking soda on them- they will fizz and remove corrosion you missed. Rinse with water, and coat with grease. Connections stay cleaner much longer after doing that. Let us know if you have further needs.

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H B hutchens

04-14-2003 17:58:24




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 Re: AC D14 Starter problem in reply to Cathy in Oregon, 04-14-2003 16:26:18  
Look just in front of the starter, where it enters the bell housing. There is a single bolt with a locknut. This is the bolt that holds the starter. Can't reminder if it,s on the right or left side. Remove this and slide the starter to the rear. May have to tap acouple of times to lossen the starter. Hope this helps. H.B.



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Cathy in Oregon

04-14-2003 18:55:56




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 Re: Re: AC D14 Starter problem in reply to H B hutchens, 04-14-2003 17:58:24  
Thank you so very much HB
I am sure that my Dad can figure it out from here.



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rudy

04-14-2003 20:02:17




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 Re: Re: Re: AC D14 Starter problem in reply to Cathy in Oregon, 04-14-2003 18:55:56  
bolt is on the right side



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