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180 Diesel hard to Start

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Alan F.

04-11-2003 19:01:13

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My dad has a 180 Diesel that seems to be the coldest natured tractor I have ever seen to start. It will start when plugged in over night--no problem but any other time it's hard to get started. Since he quit farming about 10 years ago we only put about 100 hours a year on it mowing and pushing with the loader. Last I remember it has around 5500 hours and I know the engine, pump, and injectors haven't been touched since he's had it(about 22 years). If it is a good hot day without a cloud in the sky it will start own it's own but any other day--forget it. Some have said this is a sign of a weak pump and others have said injector tips. How can I check to see which it is? Batteries are in good shape and starter will spin engine to the point you can smell diesel smoke and even see white smoke before it kicks off. Not used to the orange color as much as the greens and reds, need some elp on this one..... ..

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04-13-2003 17:18:01

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 Re: 180 Diesel hard to Start in reply to Alan F., 04-11-2003 19:01:13  
Usually when these pumps go bad, the engine rpm varies without any change in throttle position, or the govenor is slow to respond when the engine is loaded. The injectors could be plugged, and you can have them rebuilt without touching the pump. But to me it seems that this engine has low compression. Ten years of only 100 hours per year are hard on an engine. It may be time for a rebuild.

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04-12-2003 21:09:40

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 Re: 180 Diesel hard to Start in reply to Alan F., 04-11-2003 19:01:13  
hi Kevin, maybe it is do for an overhaul, I don't like the sound of white smoke, sometimes that could mean "water" either in the fuel or leak. Check for a leak too. We have all kinds of AC's on the farm (3-G's,WD-45,D-17,185,220,7000,7080,440, oh, yes and a D-10) they all start really well. The only one that was ever hard to start was the 7080, we had the injectors done, solved the problem. if you are doing the injectors, do the pump, don't go half way. best of luck. AC's have been good to us.

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Kevin H

04-12-2003 06:47:10

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 Re: 180 Diesel hard to Start in reply to Alan F., 04-11-2003 19:01:13  
Hi! If the engine and pump and injectors have not been overhauled since new, then it could be time. With properly serviced injectors and pump, you should be able to start it. Is the compression in the engine good?? If not, then that could be a contributing factor as well. With the injectors, they could be slobbering rather than spraying after all these years. Have the pump and injectors done, and at the same time, have a compression check done on the motor. AC's are known to be somewhat hard starters, however with the right ingredients, they are not all that bad.

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