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Tyler(WA)

03-29-2003 20:36:32




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I'm restoring B4117 and of course it has no radiator shutters.

Did all B model tractors come with shutters? Either they rust up and get tossed early or it was an option that many didn't get.

I don't see too many shutter assemblies out there.

Thanks for the input.




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D13

04-01-2003 04:23:36




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 Re: Shutters in reply to Tyler(WA), 03-29-2003 20:36:32  
None of the 3 I have owned has had shutters.



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David Maddux

03-31-2003 03:58:05




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 Re: Shutters in reply to Tyler(WA), 03-29-2003 20:36:32  
As i understand Lyle Wacker, from Osmond Neb. has reproduction canvas shutters available.



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Barry (WA)

03-29-2003 22:18:59




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 Re: Shutters in reply to Tyler(WA), 03-29-2003 20:36:32  
Country tractor in Chehalis has shutters. 2147 Jackson hwy. Chehalis, WA 98532 (360) 748-3110 good people, fair prices.



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Rod (NH)

03-29-2003 21:48:04




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 Re: Shutters in reply to Tyler(WA), 03-29-2003 20:36:32  
Hi Tyler,

According to the parts book I have for the B, shutters were used on tractor serial number B43301 and up. For serial numbers B101 through B43300, a curtain assembly was used. Prior to B101, nothing was used. My '42 B is serial B58812 and has the original shutter assembly. They do get rusted up and frozen. Mine had not been operable (frozen open) for many years until last summer. I took it apart, sandblasted it, painted it and got it back in operation.

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Tyler(WA) Thanks

03-29-2003 22:48:04




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 Re: Re: Shutters in reply to Rod (NH), 03-29-2003 21:48:04  
That means my SN 4117 had a "curtain assembly." So, what's a curtain assembly look like? Mine has a hole in the radiator cover that looks like where the shutter adjustment sticks through. Is that where an adjustment for the curtain assembly fits?



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Rod (NH)

03-30-2003 11:24:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Shutters in reply to Tyler(WA) Thanks, 03-29-2003 22:48:04  
I have never seen one but it appears from the parts book to be a fabric (canvas?) curtain that hangs in front of the radiator and behind the grill...in the same area as the shutter assembly would be located. It is not shown how the curtain is operated. Presumably it would have to be raised or rolled up in some fashion as the engine temperature increased, but I don't know. The same part number is indicated for all radiator shroud/grill assemblies after ser. B101 so that could account for the hole. I wouldn't take the parts book as absolute gospel but it's the best info I have. See also the post above by jimg.

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rudy

03-30-2003 18:48:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Shutters in reply to Rod (NH), 03-30-2003 11:24:13  
i was always under the impression that shutters were an option that u could order special but im not certain about that.



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Jim

03-31-2003 15:34:04




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Shutters in reply to rudy, 03-30-2003 18:48:17  
I thought the shutter was used with a 2 fuel setup. First start with gas and then operate using kerosan. For the tractor to run correctly a higher temperature was needed so a shutter was used as was covers or caling mounted on the manifold to build heat. I think the thermosate was higher also in the multi-fuel setup. Maybe gas was scarce or expensive in the 1940's ?



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Sid

03-29-2003 21:38:46




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 Re: Shutters in reply to Tyler(WA), 03-29-2003 20:36:32  
I think it was an option. I do not remember seeing any with shutters around.



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tom davison

03-30-2003 09:32:46




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 Re: Re: Shutters in reply to Sid, 03-29-2003 21:38:46  
I don't know whether shutters were an option or standard eqpt. It seems they would have been std eqpt as the book states the shutters should be closed until operating temperature came up to at least 170 degrees. Also, some of the early tractors may not have had thermostats. Shutters were needed on the kerosene tractors as a high operating tempature was needed to burn the kerosene. tom davison (PA)

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