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Adding Oil to Final Drives on WD

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03-11-2003 10:48:47

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Can anyone tell me how to properly check the oil in the final drives on my 1953 WD? Also, what oil should be used to refill it? It looks like the one on the right side has been leaking. Is there any common places for them to leak?


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03-13-2003 06:21:48

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 Re: Adding Oil to Final Drives on WD in reply to Kevin, 03-11-2003 10:48:47  
OPERATOR manual.

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Dave K

03-12-2003 08:29:20

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 Re: Adding Oil to Final Drives on WD in reply to Kevin, 03-11-2003 10:48:47  
If your axle seals are leaking that has to do with the tranny/rear end oil, not the final drives. You have to spin the wheels all the way out on the WD to get those pans on the final drives down and the inside bolts are still a pain. I just did mine and use 80/120 gear oil in them. Got new gaskets from AGCO but kind of pricy at about $12 a side! Would think permatex would be fine as this lub is not under pressure of any kind.


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Brian G. NY

03-12-2003 12:11:51

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 Re: Re: Adding Oil to Final Drives on WD in reply to Dave K, 03-12-2003 08:29:20  
Dave, You may want to rethink what you're attempting to say there?! The "pinion shaft" comes out of the differential and turns the rear axle (bull) gear which turns the axle. The "axle" is the rotating or static shaft on which a wheel turns. The gaskets are very easy to make from a roll of gasket material you can pick up at any auto parts store. Silicone would probably work fine; Permatex #2 is designed to be used with a gasket.

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Brian G. NY

03-11-2003 19:17:55

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 Re: Adding Oil to Final Drives on WD in reply to Kevin, 03-11-2003 10:48:47  
The rear axle seal number is: (Federal Mogul) 455009. The actual size of the seal is: 2.75" X 3.876" X .468". If your axle seal is leaking, replacement of the seal will be neceassary if you avoid the mess on the inside of the wheel and rim. You may also encounter (as I did)pitting on the axle at the seal mating surface if the tractor has been sitting idle for a long time. I cleaned these pits real good with a wire brush on a die grinder, cleaned it with "BrakeKleen" and an airgun, applied "Liquid Steel" with a plastic body fill spatula and then sanded it smooth with increasingly finer sand paper, finally ending up with 400 grit. I did this about 4 years ago on my WD and I have not had a problem since. I think I would try the two part epoxy "J-B Weld" if I were to do it again since I've heard all the good things about it. It's not a real big job but I would recommend getting the repair manual before starting as it makes the job a lot easier.

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John Rogers

03-11-2003 17:23:53

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 Re: Adding Oil to Final Drives on WD in reply to Kevin, 03-11-2003 10:48:47  
Kevin; the oil is supposed to be level with the lower edge of the pipe plug that you take out to add oil. The recommended oil is a Gl-5 80-90wt Gear lube . AC expected you to take the pans off clean them and reinstall with new gaskets. Dont remember what the Allis number for their gear oil is. Hope this is of some help. John

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Steve in N.J.

03-11-2003 17:20:25

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 Re: Adding Oil to Final Drives on WD in reply to Kevin, 03-11-2003 10:48:47  
Kevin, I have a B, but I believe the WD has the same similar type setup. May be a 1/4" pipe plug in the side of the final drive pan. Crank that out and stick yer' pinky finger in the hole and see if your finger comes out with oil drippin' off it. If it does yer' right up to snuff. If you can't feel anything on the side that's leaking, it's obviously lower than it's supposed to be and either fixing the problem, or adding some gear oil would keep things from getting ruined. My B had leaks everywhere. At the final drive seals, and the final drive pan gaskets. After the resto, with new seals and pan gaskets that I made, the leaks were gone. I use 80w90 Valvoline gear oil in my B. Gear oil is anyone's preference...
Steve B.

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David Maddux

03-11-2003 17:32:51

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 Re: Re: Adding Oil to Final Drives on WD in reply to Steve in N.J., 03-11-2003 17:20:25  
I just used permatex on my final drive pans, I saw on a web site that a guy said that you could do it and so far no leaks x my fingers. If it does I guess it is not a big job to put gaskets on it. I just thought that it would be good for the next 50 years like the last guy did.

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03-12-2003 21:38:10

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 Re: Re: Re: Adding Oil to Final Drives on WD in reply to David Maddux, 03-11-2003 17:32:51  
I sure appreciate everyone's comments. This is a big help. I'll look it over and see what I can tell about it. Thanks again!

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