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02-11-2003 15:18:36

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I am about to start an addition to my barn/shop so that I can have a warm place to work in winter. I am adding a 36X36 ft. addition. I would like suggestions as to what you would deffintely have in a new shop if you were building it. I want to build a Jib crane with about a 10 ft. arm. Does anyone have a plan or directions for a Jib crane. Also, what type of lighting and how much lighting would you install. Anything else you can think of would be helpful. I just don't want to get done and wish I had added something else.

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02-17-2003 03:33:57

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 Re: New shop in reply to Dave, 02-11-2003 15:18:36  
Install all the lighting you can get your hands on, can never have to much! A pit is a nice thing to have but go to the internet under WWW.eagleequip.com. They have lifts that are reasonable and with a little add on will work for tactors. Install a "GOOD" air compressor and run plumbing to several places. I have a 36 X 56 three bay pole barn and have 5 different places to hook into air. I ran PVC pipe that has a pressure rating of 225psi and only run about 120psi, have never had any problem. I did use pipe at the hook ups so I wouldn't break them off. Also put in a regulator and some moisture traps and moisture filter so you can use the spray gun. On one part of the work bench install a thick flat plate to do the hammering on, mine is around my vise area and is about four feet long and the width of the bench. Install electrical plug ins above each bay so you can plug in recoil drop lights. Also install electrical outlets every few feet. The cost is minimal and the ability to have a plug in whenever you want it really pays off. Insulate to the max and don't forget the doors. A lot of heat goes out there. Also place the furnace/air unit in a corner along with the air compressor, not along a wall that will take up space. I made that mistake with the furnace! To cut down on the heating/cooling bill you might think of putting up a divider, I use a roll down canvas that cuts the shop in 1/2. Just shut off the heating vent to one side. I have rambled on long enough. Hope this helps.

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02-15-2003 01:19:01

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 Re: New shop in reply to Dave, 02-11-2003 15:18:36  
i am planning a shop in the next year. having acid reflux i am definitly planning a pit so i dont have to lie underneath equipment to work on it. been thinking about the radiant heater that mounts on the ceiling myself or a corn stove that will heat the house and shop . since i am planning on having within a few feet of the house .i've been thinking about getting one of those car ports they advertise and buy one that is enclosed for my shop.

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02-12-2003 16:08:54

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 Re: New shop in reply to Dave, 02-11-2003 15:18:36  
Tubing and insulation for floor heat runs about a buck a square foot in our area. My employer (excavating contractor) has floor heat in his year-old shop. Put snow covered machines in at the end of the day, and next morning they are warm, snow is off, and the floor is dry. Extremely comfortable place to work. My HM hoist frame is 8 inch I beams, with a 6x12 beam overhead. Have a two ton hoist, made the trolley with 1/2 inch plate steel with Ford Pinto or Taurus front spindles and cut down drums for wheels for it to roll on. Wheels under I beams I made from 6" pipe slices, welded cookies and hubs inside. Currently changing the whole system to a pivot hoist, same basic design, but one end is an 8" post with the other end of the 22' beam rolling in a 90 degree arc, instead of the old 11 foot span portable frame. New design will not be in the way like the other one is.

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02-14-2003 22:50:09

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 Re: Re: New shop in reply to JMS/MN, 02-12-2003 16:08:54  
what heats the flooring? hot water? if so, how do you do that without exposing the flame from the hot water heater to vapors? heard alot but still am very cautious as to what one actually needs. sorry to tag on and don't mean to distract from original message, hopefully he's as curious as i.

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02-12-2003 22:40:38

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 Re: Re: New shop in reply to JMS/MN, 02-12-2003 16:08:54  
An addendum to the previous post: I bought used I beams from a locally demolished creamery- cost was 15 cents per pound. Same with the current project to re-do the hoist beams- salvage company had 8" pipe about the same price. Trolley: commercial units were $200 or more, hard to find. Built mine for about $50 with spindles, plates, grade 8 bolts and spacer pipes. Good feature on new plan is the far end pipe support will have an 8 foot rotating jib (6-8 inch I beam) for an additional one-ton chain hoist I have, for smaller projects, and extended reach, when I might need two hoists. The old 11 foot span frame worked fine when I put an 855 Cummins engine (2500-3000 lbs) in a 2470 Case tractor, but the new 22 foot span will cover almost half the shop. Don't know about the 'engineering', will just play it by ear with a heavy load in the middle of that span.

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Steve in N.J.

02-11-2003 20:39:12

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 Re: New shop in reply to Dave, 02-11-2003 15:18:36  
The guys are on the money there! If you can afford it, go for the heated floor! My buddy just finished his new garage and he has the heated floor. Unreal how warm it is in the garage as well as a nice warm floor like the guys mentioned. It's tough enough on us older dudes working on concrete floors, but when they're heated in the winter, what a difference. As for lighting, he installed all flouresent lamps. I have all flouresent lamps in my shop. Ya never have enough light....
Steve B.

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Joe M

02-11-2003 18:01:37

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 Re: New shop in reply to Dave, 02-11-2003 15:18:36  
A floor drain so I can wash my toys in the winter is right behind the crane on my list

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den/southern Illinois

02-11-2003 16:35:11

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 Re: New shop in reply to Dave, 02-11-2003 15:18:36  
Dave, You did not mention heat. Being in the concrete business, I have a suggestion for you if you plan on heating your area. Install the heat in the floor. This is done with a series of plastic pipe which gets hooked to a boiler with a pump to keep the water moving. A good plumber/heat man should be able to help. It's a great way to heat your shop with one warm floor.

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02-11-2003 18:36:10

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 Re: Re: New shop in reply to den/southern Illinois, 02-11-2003 16:35:11  
Radiant floor heat is the only way to go. I installed radiant floor heat. Make sure you have some one do a heat load calculation on your building. Also insulate it well. It is pay for it now or always pay for it with extra fuel each year. Shops this size can probably be heated with a gas hot water heater with a power vent. This is not the cheapest system to install but once you have it you would never give it up. Concrete is nicer to lay on when it is 75-85 degree rather than 55 degrees.

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