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Allis locked up at tractor show

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David Maddux

02-10-2003 10:49:26




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Went to tractor show this weekend at Galesburg, IL., drove my tractor in trailer here at home and when I got at show motor locked up tight. It would not budge, well for those who were wondering what the problem was, the magnito armature had come apart and was wedged tight in the winding. Only to find out after removing the valve cover, the oil pan, oh and yes after splitting the tractor in two. Nothing like getting to the root of the problem. I guess I can fix that rear main leak now.

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Jim T

02-11-2003 04:48:09




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 Re: Allis locked up at tractor show in reply to David Maddux, 02-10-2003 10:49:26  
Dave, I'm glad to hear you found the problem. It sounds as if this is not too uncommon, from what Steve in NJ says. Good luck putting it back together and I hope you didn't scar up your beautiful paint too much. Hope to see you again. Jim T



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David Maddux

02-11-2003 16:55:20




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 Re: Re: Allis locked up at tractor show in reply to Jim T, 02-11-2003 04:48:09  
Jim: thanks again for the wonderful hospitality you people showed. Really enjoyed the show. I used to be envolved in car shows and it is just a different kind of people at the tractor shows. When you get treated like we did this weekend, then you can see why we travel such distances to get to these shows. You can feel like you have been friends forever. We are having an Allis featured show at our Lathrop, Missouri show this summer and It will be fathersday weekend, if you can make it we would be glad to have you. Will keep you posted, but thanks again and will see you later. Dave

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Ross Provine

02-10-2003 20:54:55




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 Re: Allis locked up at tractor show in reply to David Maddux, 02-10-2003 10:49:26  
I was at that show, I didn't show a tractor just visiting. What part of Illinois are you from. I'm from about an hour south of Galesburg. There were too many deere's there for my taste. ButI liked the WD 45 and the Ford 4000 industrial with the fwa.
Ross



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David Maddux

02-11-2003 04:09:42




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 Re: Re: Allis locked up at tractor show in reply to Ross Provine, 02-10-2003 20:54:55  
I am from just north of Kansas City on I-35. I am the one that had the B Allis.



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Steve in N.J.

02-10-2003 18:27:55




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 Re: Allis locked up at tractor show in reply to David Maddux, 02-10-2003 10:49:26  
Dave,
Sorry to hear about your misfortune! I assume it's a "J" series F/M mag. The magnetic rotors have a nak of coming loose, and as you witnessed makes things come to abrupt stop when they come apart! I had one customer come in one day with the side blown out of his mag because of the same problem. Fairbanks fixed that problem when they introduced the "X" series mag, which is almost identical to the "J" series when the cap & cover are on, but that's where it stops. When I'm rebuilding a "J" series mag, that's one of the first things I go to when I get one apart on the mag bench. I've successfully pinned some of the rotors, then they'll stay put! Well, you wanted to fix that leaky main anyway right?
Steve B.

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David Maddux

02-11-2003 04:12:54




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 Re: Re: Allis locked up at tractor show in reply to Steve in N.J., 02-10-2003 18:27:55  
Steve: I was going to be alright, but now I am starting to get teary eyed again, that was the best mag in the house.



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Steve in N.J.

02-11-2003 05:32:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Allis locked up at tractor show in reply to David Maddux, 02-11-2003 04:12:54  
Dave,
Yikes! That's not good. I have a J mag done & ready to go if you need one, or if ya need some parts n' pieces for another you may have, between the two of us, we could piece one together and yer' back in business. Be glad to help ya out, you know that!
Let me know what ya need... Steve B.



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Ric Ks.

02-10-2003 15:42:29




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 Re: Allis locked up at tractor show in reply to David Maddux, 02-10-2003 10:49:26  
Little things can sure cause big problems. My brother-in-law had a '69 GTO Police intercepter back in the 80s.. Didnt have a lot of money and had to drive it to work most every day. One day at a stop light it just died. Wouldnt crank over and when they tried to move it would slide the back wheels if in gear. He lost his head and sold it to a parts dealer for $600. Found out later the shaft for the distrib. fell down into the pan and wedged between a throw on the crank and the block. I dont think he ever quit kicking himself.

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Norm in Alabama

02-11-2003 06:45:49




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 Re: Re: Allis locked up at tractor show in reply to Ric Ks., 02-10-2003 15:42:29  
Just what does this have to do with an Allis locking up at a tractor show.



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Norm in Alabama

02-11-2003 12:28:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Allis locked up at tractor show in reply to Norm in Alabama, 02-11-2003 06:45:49  
Now I see the tie-in. Took me a long time to see it. I had a senior moment there.



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max

02-12-2003 05:02:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Allis locked up at tractor show in reply to Norm in Alabama, 02-11-2003 12:28:31  
norm

i've restored many more GTO's than A/C tractors...just goes to show i like working with the best of both worlds.



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David Maddux

02-11-2003 08:44:58




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 Re: Re: Re: Allis locked up at tractor show in reply to Norm in Alabama, 02-11-2003 06:45:49  
Norm: When the mag came apart it wedged tight and you could not turn that motor over for love or money.



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dean

02-10-2003 19:49:22




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 Re: Re: Allis locked up at tractor show in reply to Ric Ks., 02-10-2003 15:42:29  
sorry to say this but they didnt make a gto police interceptor..all gto's were 2door variety and not suited for police work..perhaps you were thinking of a "judge"? in which case i would be kicking my butt for not buying it from him for $600.00..lol



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markct

02-11-2003 04:44:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Allis locked up at tractor show in reply to dean, 02-10-2003 19:49:22  
yea, another thing is that if the dist drive fell down in to the pan all it would do is lock up the motor, ya could put the car in neatraul and roll it all ya wanted, somehow this story sounds fishy



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ray in wa.

02-11-2003 05:57:10




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Allis locked up at tractor show in reply to markct, 02-11-2003 04:44:57  
You didn't read the story, it said if in gear.just my 2 cents worth



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