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Solenoid wiring

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Charles Stapleton

02-06-2003 13:16:23




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I have a allis-chalmers d-14 (early model). I had to remove the starter, when i replaced the solenoid on the starter I thought Ihad the wiring corrrect on it but when I tried to start it, the solenoid sparked. Can someone give me in detail the correct wiring on the solenoid or maybe a diagram? Thisis a second posting, first must not have gone through. Thank you in advance




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Richard Gadberry

07-15-2006 16:07:57




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 Re: solenoid wiring in reply to Charles Stapleton, 02-06-2003 13:16:23  
I have a similar issue and could use some help. Can you send me the same diagram.



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Joe 7247581006

02-09-2003 12:28:07




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 Re: solenoid wiring in reply to Charles Stapleton, 02-06-2003 13:16:23  
Sounds like a bad ground or the starter is shorted bench check the starter then make sure that the start. and the sol. are grounded well
also where did the sol. spark at? you can also use jumper cables to crank moter call if u like
Joe



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steve

02-07-2003 17:22:25




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 Re: solenoid wiring in reply to Charles Stapleton, 02-06-2003 13:16:23  
sent you a drawing of the D14 and D15 wireing diagrams from the service manual. chekc your e-mail



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Richard Gadberry

07-15-2006 16:15:40




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 Re: Re: solenoid wiring in reply to steve, 02-07-2003 17:22:25  
I have an old Allis Chamlers "B" with a similar problem and could use the same diagram. I am installing a marine ignition switch so that I can start, run and stop the tractor with one switch. I'm quite sure how it all wires together but I would like to have an amp meter, lights, starter, and kill swtich on one ignition switch. I've been told to use a marine switch. Any help would be appreciated.

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max

02-07-2003 05:01:55




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 Re: solenoid wiring in reply to Charles Stapleton, 02-06-2003 13:16:23  

i'll guess and say a white wire goes from the button switch to the center(small) terminal on the solenoid.

a blue wire goes from the large battery cable terminal side of the solenoid (always hot) to the amp gauge ( to the key switch if no guage).

opposite solenoid side terminal (large) goes to the starter motor

the wire colors may have changed as often as did the previous owners.

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TX Denny

02-06-2003 13:30:32




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 Re: solenoid wiring in reply to Charles Stapleton, 02-06-2003 13:16:23  
I'll give it a shot. If it is sparking, the most likely problem is that the solenoid is not properly grounded. Current comes from the starter switch to the solenoid, goes through the solenoid coil and then through the solenoid case through bolts to ground. If there is paint or dirt in the mounting, you may get sparks. One side of the power terminals goes to the negative terminal of the battery (assuming positive ground). The other side goes to the starter. Be sure all of the conections are clean. If they are, it should work.

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Gary

02-06-2003 18:44:39




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 Re: Re: solenoid wiring in reply to TX Denny, 02-06-2003 13:30:32  
You could do it likewe do on race cars. We use a short piece of copper tubing. Pound it REAL flat atone end so that it's wide, small on the other end. Drill a 3/8hole on one, 1/8 on the other end to jump your solenoid. Attch a Ford car solenoid a short distance away. Run a GOOD cable between the two. Move your original starter wire over to your Ford solenoid to energize it. It takes about 30 amps to energize tose big solenoids on the starter, so, it takes a big wire to run all of the way to the starter button nd back to the original solenoid. The Ford solenoid only takes a small amount of juice.Move your main power feed wire over to the Ford solenoid, too, because the original solenoid won't have any juice EXCEPT starter button is engaged.

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Charles

02-06-2003 19:39:51




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 Re: Re: Re: solenoid wiring in reply to Gary, 02-06-2003 18:44:39  
Thanks for the tip, still would like to have a diagramif at all posssible. Not too inclined when it comes to wiring



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