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12 Volt Generator

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Mike

12-20-2002 15:38:56




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The 1944 Model C I am restoring already has a 12 volt system including battery, side mounted battery box, and starting switch, but has no generator and no lights. As I wish to install lights I believe I need to install a generator. I would appreciate information on where to purchase just the generator and lights. Will the generator attach to the tractor similarly to the old 6 volt generator or will I have to manufacture a bracket mounting assembly?

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scott

10-20-2003 09:30:38




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 Re: 12 Volt Generator in reply to Mike, 12-20-2002 15:38:56  
12volt generator to charge multiple batteries gas motor 0perated



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Doug in OR

12-21-2002 14:56:12




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 Re: 12 Volt Generator in reply to Mike, 12-20-2002 15:38:56  
It depends on what you want to do with this tractor. If it will mostly be parade duty and you will seldom use the lights, you can keep the battery up just with an external charger. If you want to use lights, and not mess with the external charger, you can get a 12 volt generator, but an alternator is more trouble-free. As another poster said, you can get a rebuilt GM 10SI alternator for very little. But since the C is a smaller tractor, size is a consideration. There are some Japanese alternators out there that have a smaller diameter. Regardless, an alternator is much more trouble free, and installation is more straight-forward. If you are concerned with the asthetics and want the tractor to look more authentic, then look for a 12 volt generator.

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Farmall Daddy

12-21-2002 11:24:33




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 Re: 12 Volt Generator in reply to Mike, 12-20-2002 15:38:56  
As long as your wiring is 12 volt, and you ingnition is 12 volt, you should be ok. What ever you do, don't put one of those alternators on it unless it is your last option. In my own opinion, I think they are the biggest pain in the butt to work with.



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steve

12-20-2002 17:57:56




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 Re: 12 Volt Generator in reply to Mike, 12-20-2002 15:38:56  
Go to Auto Zone and shop around.
If you want an alternator, look at a 1976 chevy pickup alternator. It has an internal regilator.
If you want a generator, ask to see a unit for a 1959 chevy pickup, and the voltage regulator to go with it. The generator looks almost original, if that is important.



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Frank, Tx

12-20-2002 17:27:15




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 Re: 12 Volt Generator in reply to Mike, 12-20-2002 15:38:56  

Mike, You have at least a couple of choices for your 12volt system. If you want to use a generator, you can get a 12v generator from most generator/alternator repair shops that will fit into your Allis factory mounting bracket. You will need a 12volt voltage regulator also. Another optiion is a 6v generator with a 12volt regulator. You will probably have to put a small pulley on the generator to get a satisfactory charge rate with the 6volt generator and 12v voltage regulator. Unless you want to try and keep your tractor looking "original" probably the best solution is a Delco Remey model 10 SI alternator, which has built in "voltage" regulation. Dewey on this board and Clooney on the John Deere board will gladly provide wiring diagrams for doing any of the above. You can probably find out all you need to know by doing a search of the archives for either of these boards.
LOL, Frank

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karl

10-29-2003 18:11:21




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 Re: Re: 12 Volt Generator in reply to Frank, Tx, 12-20-2002 17:27:15  
did i read where you said you can use a 6 volt generator with a 12 volt system? if you have any information on this subject i would really like a respnose as i have a couple 6 volt generators as i changed mine over to 12 volt and i have asked many people if this is possible to do and no one knew. thanks you-karl



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steve corum

12-20-2002 15:55:44




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 Re: 12 Volt Generator in reply to Mike, 12-20-2002 15:38:56  
If you have the old generator, you can have it wire 12 volt for originallook with same bracket or you can get 12 volt alternator and with a modified bracket it will work. Steve



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Jerry

12-20-2002 16:24:07




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 Re: Re: 12 Volt Generator in reply to steve corum, 12-20-2002 15:55:44  
Their are several types of alternators. I think that you will want one that doesn't need a regulater. Maybe one of the guys on this board knows.



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