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WD45diesel engine

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Lloyd

03-08-1999 06:51:12




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I have a Cockshutt 40 with a Buda 6cyl gas engine that is bad. I know the WD45diesel used a 6cyl diesel that looks the same as the diesel motor in the Cockshutt 40diesel. Does anyone know if the 45diesel will fit in my Cockshutt? How about the D17diesel? Or one of the 6cyl combine motors that people put in their D17's? Thanks for any help Lloyd




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Ted Buisker

03-11-1999 01:31:12




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 Re: WD45diesel engine in reply to Lloyd, 03-08-1999 06:51:12  
As far as I know both the WD-45D, and the Cockshutt 40 both used the Buda 6BD230 engine, so they should interchange with little difficulty
6--- 6 cylinder
B--- Buda
D--- Diesel
230--- c.i. displacement
Good luck, TED



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Lloyd

03-12-1999 06:30:50




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 Re: Re: WD45diesel engine in reply to Ted Buisker, 03-11-1999 01:31:12  
I had an idea that they were the same engine. I was wondering if the mounts are the same. Also, is the D17 basicly a bored or stroked WD45 diesel engine?If so, maybe it will fit also. Is a D19 gas engine a BUDA engine too? All this would help me broaden the target base for finding an easily installed engine. I would prefer a diesel for fuel economy, but a well priced gas engine would be o.k. as well. Thank all of you very much.Lloyd

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Ted Buisker

03-14-1999 17:29:51




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 Re: Re: Re: WD45diesel engine in reply to Lloyd, 03-12-1999 06:30:50  
The D17 and D19 engines are 262 cu. in. 1/8th in. larger bore, and 1/8th in. longer stroke. 230= 3 7/16 bore 4 1/8 stroke. 262 = 3 9/16th bore 4 1/4 in. stroke. They are similar enough that I used a 230 diesel head on my 262 diesel block. Both engines were made at the former Buda plant in Harvey IL, but I think the 262 was made after AC bought them, so it technically is not a Buda, but it does seem to be a variation of the Buda design. The D17 diesel was normally aspirated , and the D19 had a turbocharger, and is noted as the first production tractor with a turbo. The gas version while more powerful than the diesel had a reputation as a gas hog. Actually although it did use more fuel than the diesel, a small fuel tank gave the perception of it always needing fuel. The motor mounts are different between the wd45, and the D17, but with a little machine work on the front housing to accept the wd45 front mount, it will bolt right in. You wll need to use the wd45 flywheel. how it would mount in a Cockshutt, I don't know, but I have heard of pullers who use a Cockshutt 50 useing the 17 crankshaft for its additional stroke. Guess I'm rambling here, so I'll quit. Hope this helps. TED

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Chad Wink

03-09-1999 21:21:48




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 Re: WD45diesel engine in reply to Lloyd, 03-08-1999 06:51:12  
My grandfather rebuilt a Buda out of a Gleaner combine, and put it into a 1979 Ford F-150. He did this in 1980. This was before Ford had a diesel pickup.

He made an adapter, and installed a turbo that was supposed to fit a Farmall 560 (it was a conversion as the 560 didn't have a turbo) and had a friend who was a machinest make a bell housing for it. He also put on a vacume pump for the brakes.

When he got done with a whole winters worth of work, it got 50 miles per gallon. It didn't have really great power, but it was more than enough to drive without a heavy load. The only problem was that whenever my grandmother drove it, she lugged it and blew out the head gasket. After the 2nd or 3rd head gasked my grandfather gave up on it, because it was supposed to be my grandmas truck. But he could drive it thousands of miles with no problems at all.

You should have seen the guys at the truck stops come running when he pulled up to the diesel pump. They would come running out telling him he couldn't put diesel in the truck. Then we would have to open the hood, and let everybody look at the engine.

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Al

03-08-1999 07:41:54




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 Re: WD45diesel engine in reply to Lloyd, 03-08-1999 06:51:12  
Allis Chalmers bought the Budda Engine co.That is when Cockshut had to go to Hercules Engines.I would guess it is the same engine.



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john baker

03-08-1999 10:04:18




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 Re: Re: WD45diesel engine in reply to Al, 03-08-1999 07:41:54  
while the engines share many parts they are quite different. the castings will interchange but are noticably different when compared side by side. the 45 is smaller in displacement and has totally different accessories fromthe newer engine. If you dont care about being correct,the d19 engine or cII gleaner engine will work.



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Lloyd

03-09-1999 06:45:51




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 Re: Re: Re: WD45diesel engine in reply to john baker, 03-08-1999 10:04:18  
Thank you, I'm not that concerned about originality.



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