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David Maddux

12-04-2002 18:43:44




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This last weekend I bought a WC, I dont think I have seen one like this before. I am new to learning about the WC. This one has a 45 degree exhaust and a styled hood that has never been cut for a pipe to come thru the top. I do not have the tractor home yet, and I did not write the serial no. down. So I dont know what year it is yet. It must be an early one. When did they start putting the pipe and muffler up thru the hood?

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jimg centwis

12-05-2002 17:14:50




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 Re: Early styled WC in reply to David Maddux, 12-04-2002 18:43:44  

I have unstyled WC ser. #69188 bought new by my father. I know a lot of people think the slanted exaust pipe is for the disstolite fueled tractors, not so. Ours is and has alwas been a gas fueled tractor and still has the original manifold. It has alwas had the slanted pipe with the pinched end on it, altho the pipe has been replaced a few times. Incedently the manifold was marked with G. jimg

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Tom

12-06-2002 18:04:00




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 Re: Re: Early styled WC in reply to jimg centwis, 12-05-2002 17:14:50  
Is it possible that WC or early WCs used the slant pipe manifold and when they got to WDs they made two manifolds?



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Joe M

12-05-2002 18:37:50




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 Re: Re: Early styled WC in reply to jimg centwis, 12-05-2002 17:14:50  
jimg centwis, David's tractor is styled, all the unstyled WCs like you are talking about had the side exhaust, marked either "k" or "g" depending on how the engine was set up. After the styled came out in 39 and up to engine # w106509 both gas and kerosene tractors had the side exhaust, after the above s/n only kerosene engines had the side exhaust. My 41 WC is kero and has engine #w-119831k, so I would guess they begain to offer the through the hood muffler in late 1940. I'm getting this from my 1965 partsbook, which agrees with the book that came with mine in 41. By the way, my parts book shows a muffler offered as an option on the side exhaust, has anyone ever seen one? I posted a pic in the parts & pieces area. I've never seen a real one, just ones people made.

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David Maddux

12-06-2002 04:51:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Early styled WC in reply to Joe M, 12-05-2002 18:37:50  
That confirms my thoughts that it was an early 40's tractor. I am currently restoring a 37 WC, I bought decals from Lyle Wacker and he sent me a picture of a muffler on an unstyled tractor with a 45 degree manifold. He sells them and a canvas shutter for that tractor. Lyle is very helpful in the restoration knowledge. Until it is my turn to help some one, thanks. Dave



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Dave Fullmer

12-08-2002 11:53:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Early styled WC in reply to David Maddux, 12-06-2002 04:51:57  
I have a 47 WC out back that has the slanted manifold. It seems apparent to me that the all fuel tractors came with the slanted manifold. You changed the set up for fuel by turning the plate upside down, hence the K and G stamped on the plate.



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David Maddux

12-08-2002 13:42:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Early styled WC in reply to Dave Fullmer, 12-08-2002 11:53:32  
Dave: If this is true it certainly makes sense. Dave.



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Joe M

12-05-2002 14:48:53




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 Re: Early styled WC in reply to David Maddux, 12-04-2002 18:43:44  
I believe the change came in the mid forties. The styled WC with the 45 degree exhaust is for a low-octane or kerosene fueled engine. There should be a "k" on the manifold cover,a "k" at the end of the engine serial number and an extra small fuel tank for gasoline to start the motor on and warm it up, then switch over to the large tank of kerosene. Keep that manifold outlet covered, that's a very expensive manifold, hate to see it freeze and bust !
This style manifold was used up to engine serial # w-106509

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Tom

12-05-2002 17:11:43




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 Re: Re: Early styled WC in reply to Joe M, 12-05-2002 14:48:53  
I think my parts manual for WD, WD-45s lists a 45 degree manifold for low octane fuel, don't know when they stopped making low octane option, but some WDs must have had that manifold too.



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JMS/MN

12-05-2002 05:26:26




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 Re: Early styled WC in reply to David Maddux, 12-04-2002 18:43:44  
In the late thirties, my Dad was a farmer/dealer for AC, and kept the last one he bought. It was a 1939 WC like you describe, serial number 77717. Traded for a new WD45 in the fall of 1956, and I haven't seen it since. Foot clutch was hard to push when brother and I started driving, so he bolted a lever to it so it could be operated by hand. Easy to remember serial number, so it's been a habit to watch for it whenever I go through salvage yards. Don't know when they switched to the exhaust through the hood, like the 1947 model we had.

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oldtimer

12-07-2002 16:19:20




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 Re: Re: Early styled WC in reply to JMS/MN, 12-05-2002 05:26:26  
no,no,no the slanted pipe was there to use the tork from the exhaust to keep the furrow wheel in the furrow when plowing, that's what a friend of an old AC mech told me, ot



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