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AC B battery location

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Robert Nicholson

12-04-2002 11:35:23




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Hi folks:

I have a model B which is equipped with an electric starter. However, when I purchased the tractor the battery was simply hanging off the side. Where was the original box located? Was electric start an original option? Do they have a pull rod going to a solenoid? Did this tractor ever have a generator?

I appreciate your help
Bob Nicholson




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Bryan Smith

12-06-2002 08:58:45




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 Re: AC B battery location in reply to Robert Nicholson, 12-04-2002 11:35:23  
The foot-push starter rod was on earlier B's, the hand-pull starter rod was on later ones. Easiest way to check is to look at the underside of the gas tank - B tractors with the hand-pull rod had a slight crease or dent in the right-hand underside to help accomodate the pull-type starter rod. My 1950 B was a foot-push system, so I would guess - and it's only a guess - you're looking at 1953 or later for the hand-pull.

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Greg Ballantyne

12-08-2002 05:43:28




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 Re: Re: AC B battery location in reply to Bryan Smith, 12-06-2002 08:58:45  
I have a hand pull rod on my 49 B.



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Robert Nicholson

12-06-2002 09:40:13




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 Re: Re: AC B battery location in reply to Bryan Smith, 12-06-2002 08:58:45  
Thanks Bryan:

I guess I am going to have to check the serial number to detrmine the year. I believe the tractor is from the 40's.

I appreciate the information.
Robert



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Rod (NH)

12-04-2002 18:17:55




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 Re: AC B battery location in reply to Robert Nicholson, 12-04-2002 11:35:23  
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Hi Robert,

I believe in 1940 and later, the electric start was an option. My '42 B was crank start from the factory but had the hole in the torque tube for the starter and the tapped bosses on the block for the generator. The factory location for the battery box is not off to the side but is as Sheila says...immediately forward of the vertical support for the steering column and centered on the torque tube between the engine and transmission. The crank start toolbox was longer and would not allow space for the battery at that location. When my B was retrofit for electric start, several inches had to be cut off the toolbox to properly install the battery. As Sheila says, some had a foot push rod that actuated a switch at the starter. My retrofit had a manual hand pull rod that accomplished the same thing. As far as I know, there were no push button solenoid start provisions from the factory. That can be retrofitted rather easily though, as I did.

An electric start without a generator does not make a lot of sense to me, and is why I suspect your is not a factory installation. As Tom says, the factory location for the generator was on the front left side of the engine. I suspect your engine block will have the bosses for the mounting bracket. In order to mount a generator you will need two brackets, one for the bottom to support the generator and one for the front top to permit belt adjustment. You would also need a longer drive belt. See attached photo for generator location.

Rod

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Eric Egland

12-05-2002 05:42:08




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 Re: Re: AC B battery location in reply to Rod (NH), 12-04-2002 18:17:55  
Rod, Looks like you cornered the market on cast iron to keep the front down to the ground. Looks good.



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Robert Nicholson

12-04-2002 20:00:06




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 Re: Re: AC B battery location in reply to Rod (NH), 12-04-2002 18:17:55  
Rod

Thanks for the information and picture. It is very helpful.

Robert



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Sheila Cole

12-04-2002 16:27:28




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 Re: AC B battery location in reply to Robert Nicholson, 12-04-2002 11:35:23  
I remember the B my grandfather had a foot rod to the starter, was equipped with a generator. The battery sit under the steering column on the housing between transmission and engine.



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Robert Nicholson

12-04-2002 17:12:12




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 Re: Re: AC B battery location in reply to Sheila Cole, 12-04-2002 16:27:28  
Thank you Sheila

That makes sense, although I haven't figured out where to mount the generator.

Thanks again
Bob



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Tom

12-04-2002 17:46:36




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 Re: Re: Re: AC B battery location in reply to Robert Nicholson, 12-04-2002 17:12:12  
The generator goes on the left side of the engine, tucked tightly up under the hood, but still below hood line. Look for pictures.



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Robert Nicholson

12-04-2002 20:01:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: AC B battery location in reply to Tom, 12-04-2002 17:46:36  
Thanks so much Tom.

Bob



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