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Locating farm field tile

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Craig

11-14-2002 07:53:50




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What are some methods other than digging for it
of locating existing farm field tile
old clay type




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Fred

11-14-2002 15:41:22




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 Re: Locating farm field tile in reply to Craig, 11-14-2002 07:53:50  
We use a tile prod made of a 3 and a half foot, half inch rod with a half inch pipe welded to one end like a T, and an arrow head like point on the other end. Find the sink hole and circle around it about every 6 inches and you will find the tile. When you find the tile, you will have a small amount of clay on the point, where as if you hit, say a rock , no clay will be on the point. Our tile around here is 3 feet deep to avoid tillage tools and the freeze-thaw. If the ground is hard pack or dry it a lot of work but works well.

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Dave Grubb

11-14-2002 11:08:24




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 Re: Locating farm field tile in reply to Craig, 11-14-2002 07:53:50  
I use divining rods to locate tile, water lines, water veins, buried electric wires, etc. I cannot witch for water using forked peach tree or willow tree branches. I have seen my uncle witch a known source of water with a willow branch and it twisted right down in his hands. I tried the same branch in the same spot and it did not work for me. Most people can get diving rods to work with a little practice and open mind. My rods are just the copper coated steel gas welding rods(straightened coat hangers work also). They have a 4" right angle bend on one end. You hold the rods very lightly on the 4" part and let the end of that part rest on the side of your little finger to act as a pivot point. Angle the long end of the rods downward very slightly to make the rods swing in front of you. Hold your hands together about waist high with the rods pointing in front of you. Walk very slowly and in a path that would be at right angles to where you suspect a line to be. When you approach a vein or line the rods will begin to swing to your right and left. When you are on top of the line or vein the rods will be in line with the vein and directly above it. For me, the left rod I am holding swings to my left and the right swings to my right. For others, the right rod swings to the left and the left rod swings to the right. I do use a piece of steel wool on my rods before I use them; seems to make them more sensitive for some reason. I just stroke the steel wool from the handle to the tip in the same direction a few times. I cannot explain the witching/divining forces but it works.

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Sid

11-14-2002 16:21:04




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 Re: Re: Locating farm field tile in reply to Dave Grubb, 11-14-2002 11:08:24  
I have done this as well did not know you could find electric line under ground this way I am going to have to try that. Like you can not find water with a branch.



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Farmer Tom

11-14-2002 09:12:49




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 Re: Locating farm field tile in reply to Craig, 11-14-2002 07:53:50  
Most of my field tile runs show up on the surface as holes or wet spots - easily found by a tractor, implement or wagon tire.



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Duey (IA)

11-15-2002 05:11:34




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 Re: Re: Locating farm field tile in reply to Farmer Tom, 11-14-2002 09:12:49  
Farmer Tom, It sounds like the outlet for your tile runs is not big enough or you have a lot of water coming at you from upstream. Water coming up out of the tile from upstream pressure, will wash out holes and a wet spot would indicate a restriction, or broken tile or not enough fall to the outlet???



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Farmer Tom

11-15-2002 05:43:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Locating farm field tile in reply to Duey (IA), 11-15-2002 05:11:34  
Your right on all points. My bigest problem with the tile is that most of the it is old (early 1900's)and is simply falling apart and crushes. So, I just fix the bad spots as they develop. Re-tiling is just out of my budget right now, but that is the real answer to the problem. Thanks.



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Butch(OH)

11-14-2002 08:51:29




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 Re: Locating farm field tile in reply to Craig, 11-14-2002 07:53:50  
What you need is a witcher.. Just everybody can't do it though. Talk to a few old farmers,people that install tile or other trenching work. Bet you'll find somebody local that can witch them for ya.



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