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Joseph Miller

11-06-2002 17:00:11

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FYI Guys. I use a napa oil filter on my WD and have for years. I just changed my oil yesterday and replaced the filter with the same part number as always (I think 1011) and I actually had NAPA double check it because the design was different. Long story short IT WAS NOT THE CORRECT FILTER. Watch closely guys it will not seal correctly. It is missing a collar around the gasket. I am pretty sure it was a mistake by NAPA but the part number is stamped or inked on the filter. I was down to under three quarts of oil before I saw the oil dripping out. I hope I didn't wreck her. Just watch for the wrong filter

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Tom

11-07-2002 07:20:27

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Re: Allis WD and NAPA Oil Filter in reply to Joseph Miller, 11-06-2002 17:00:11

Had the same problem on a C. Switched to Purolator L30007, much better seal.

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Justin Ny

11-06-2002 17:53:29

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Re: Allis WD and NAPA Oil Filter in reply to Joseph Miller, 11-06-2002 17:00:11

Joseph, Yup same thing happened to me on a B! Justin Ny

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Ira

11-06-2002 17:44:03

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Re: Allis WD and NAPA Oil Filter in reply to Joseph Miller, 11-06-2002 17:00:11

Have had same experiance recently.Napa's supplier of the 1101 is using a rubber seal instead of the cork seal.The rubber tends to swell and it loses it's sealing at the filter housing.If your old filter has a good cork seal on it,you may be able to reuse that part of it on new filter.

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kevin

11-07-2002 08:06:47

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Re: Re: Allis WD and NAPA Oil Filter in reply to Ira, 11-06-2002 17:44:03

I just ordered (4) Fram C159 filters last night for my neighbor's WD and a couple of B's we're working on. Anybody used that filter and had seal trouble? The NAPA # on the B filter I'm replacing is 1101 and on my neighbor's WD, a Hastings # 405.
I can get the Purolator L30007 also.

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pcy

11-11-2002 15:26:49

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Re: Re: Re: Allis WD and NAPA Oil Filter in reply to kevin, 11-07-2002 08:06:47

we changed the oil and filter on our wc and wd today , one had a carquest filter the other a ac filter, i went to napa and they crossed it to a napa 1101 they had 2 on the shelf both with cork seal, neither seems to b leaking, the book says 6 quarts after we ran the wd about 10 minites it showed a little low, so i give them another quart

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Butch(OH)

11-07-2002 11:51:28

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Re: Re: Re: Allis WD and NAPA Oil Filter in reply to kevin, 11-07-2002 08:06:47

Kevin, I have ben using Lube-finer 159s from TSC. My store recently dropped them and stocks the Fram C159 which is the same filter except for the rubber gasket instead of cork as far as I can tell. I have only used one of the Frams and it sealed up OK,... so far. If you have an AGCO dealer near by the filters are reasonable there also.

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kevin

11-07-2002 12:40:44

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Allis WD and NAPA Oil Filter in reply to Butch(OH), 11-07-2002 11:51:28

Thanks Butch.

We're draining the oil in the WD and I'm picking up the Fram filters later this evening. I'll make sure the filter seals OK. My neighbor's about 80 years old so I've got to watch out for him.

The nearest AGCO dealer is about 1 1/2 hours away, but I'll check with them the next time I'm up there.

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DanD.

11-07-2002 16:19:59

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Allis WD and NAPA Oil Filter in reply to kevin, 11-07-2002 12:40:44

The AGCO part # for the filter is 70240912. Any dealer should have them on the shelf.

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kevin

11-07-2002 18:57:43

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Allis WD and NAPA Oil Filter in reply to DanD., 11-07-2002 16:19:59

Thanks Dan for providing the part number. I'll pick up a few the next time I'm at the dealer.

Well we got the oil & filter changed. The Fram filter (~$6.00 locally) did fine with no leaks. I did notice that the WD had a small hollow rod that projects into the filter body--the Allis B didn't have this. Is there any reason why the B wouldn't have this rod? It seems that they would have the same setup.

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steve

11-07-2002 19:22:14

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Allis WD and NAPA Oil Filter in reply to kevin, 11-07-2002 18:57:43

the B should have the tube also. sometimes they fall off with the filter change, look inside old filter. without the tube there will be no restriction and too much oil will go thru the filter and you will loose supply to the rest of the motor---the gauge will read very low. remember, the filtered oil leaks back to the oil pan, not supply to the bearings.

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kevin

11-07-2002 20:33:09

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Allis WD and NAPA Oil Filter in reply to steve, 11-07-2002 19:22:14

Steve,

I kinda figured that, but I'm glad someone confirmed. Does the tube screw in or is it pressed in? Does the tube provide the supply side and then the oil drains down through the bottom perforated part of the filter? Reckon I need to find one of those tubes now. Thanks for the help.

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steve

11-08-2002 18:50:15

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Allis WD and NAPA Oil Filter in reply to kevin, 11-07-2002 20:33:09

you got it right. some guys make their own tubes. it is a 1/4 inch tube, pushed into the housing and about 4 inches long. length is about 1/2 inch short of sticking thru the top of the filter. shoudl have a hole about 1/8 in diameter in the top. There was a post last year where we discussed the "exact dimensions of tube" might check the archives. The oil pump pushes oil down the center of the cam shaft. shaft is hollow and has several holes to spray oil at the connecting rods and piston and main bearings. external to the motor about 25% of the total oil is routed thru a copper TEE and into two small tubes (behind the filter). from here you lube the cam shaft and magneto bushing. About 15% of the total oil is routed thru the filter and then drains out the bottom back to the oil pan. you dont pump filtered oil to the bearings. the more oil that goes thru the filter, the less oil that is pushed thru the motor. gauge measures the pressure to the motor. restricting the "tube" gives you a little more pressure. not like a new car motor.

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