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Starting a B, hand crank resistance?

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aaron

10-27-2002 16:38:58




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I am attempting to start a 1938 B that has not run for two years. I soaked the cylinders in diesel and have the motor free(it ran when parked). Mag and carb are fine. But it turns pretty hard. I hear the compression. Does the engine need a few full spins on the crank to start, or just one pull usually?




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shoe

10-28-2002 04:24:07




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 Re: starting a B, hand crank resistance? in reply to aaron, 10-27-2002 16:38:58  
Just hook a chain on it , put it in hig gear and when the tractor get to rolling good let out on the clutch, if it's going to start it will. That
will lossen it up for crank starting.



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Miss Grundy

10-28-2002 17:54:09




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 Re: Re: starting a B, hand crank resistance? in reply to shoe, 10-28-2002 04:24:07  
How does a chain help one to start. Why not find some other tractor Truck or car and give it a push or a good pulling?



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thanks - aaron

10-27-2002 20:18:50




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 Re: starting a B, hand crank resistance? in reply to aaron, 10-27-2002 16:38:58  
Thanks for the advice guys, I will be safe and gentle while cranking.



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Don LC

10-27-2002 19:14:32




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 Re: starting a B, hand crank resistance? in reply to aaron, 10-27-2002 16:38:58  
Forget about cranking it for now........pull start it with another tractor or truck....



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ovide

10-27-2002 19:08:51




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 Re: starting a B, hand crank resistance? in reply to aaron, 10-27-2002 16:38:58  
Hi, my question is not about a crank, i was just wondering;i have a fiat diesel tractor don't know the year, but i hear if was taking over by allis chalmes i can't find it on this website,,,any ideal, thanks ovide



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steve

10-28-2002 16:05:07




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 Re: Re: starting a B, hand crank resistance? in reply to ovide, 10-27-2002 19:08:51  
Fiat bought the "consstruction machinery" division from Allis chalmers slowly buy surely starting with 50% about 1975. By the mid 1980s they owned it all. They build track dozers, and articulated wheel loaders. In addition to this Fiat imported a farm tractor called HESTON which sold in the early 1980. THe farm division of Allis was not sold to FIAT, it was sold to DEUTZ then AGCO. If you have a construcion machinery tractor you might try www.ibdozing.com and tell them waht it is. If it is a farm tractor, tell us what it is like.

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John W.

10-27-2002 17:03:19




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 Re: starting a B, hand crank resistance? in reply to aaron, 10-27-2002 16:38:58  
Aaron; First,crank starting any engine can be hazardous if not done properly. Turn engine SLOWLY until compression begins to build. Then re-engage the crank with handle at bottom. Pull crank up to top. DO NOT try to rotate crank in a full circle. If the engine kicks back as you're going over the top you could be seriosly injured if hit by crank. Engines that have been setting for a long time tend to be stiff. Baby it for a while as you would a rebuild. It should start fairly easy IF the fuel mixture is right and the timing correct. But, as I said it may be stiff for a while, and a bit tough to start, remenber, half turns on the crank, kick backs hurt,after you wake up that is.

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Diesel Don

10-28-2002 20:04:16




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 Re: Re: starting a B, hand crank resistance? in reply to John W., 10-27-2002 17:03:19  
One more thing-DO NOT wrap your thumb around the crank.That way if it does kick back,the crank will slip out of your hand.



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