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Stuck Wd engine I need help freeing it up!

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Justin

10-24-2002 19:49:31




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Hello, afetr no luck of finding a replacement engine near by me I have decided to rebuild her. Any suggestions would be helpful! Also were do I start and what is most likely wrong and how do I correct it or fix it? The engine is stuck and the crank will not turn nor will the tractor even shift gears but the steeringis frreed up and works well! Please help! I don't have a hoist so if I can leave the engine attached that would be good!

Justin

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gatractorman

10-26-2002 01:29:24




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 Re: Stuck Wd engine I need help freeing it up! in reply to Justin, 10-24-2002 19:49:31  
"nor will the tractor even shift gears"... if the shift lever has got it hung in 2 gears it will lock the engine unless the clutch is disengaged.



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Justin

10-27-2002 07:11:30




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 Re: Re: Stuck Wd engine I need help freeing it up! in reply to gatractorman, 10-26-2002 01:29:24  
It is froze up in Nuetral.

What does that mean?

Justin



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Dave K

10-25-2002 17:10:13




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 Re: Stuck Wd engine I need help freeing it up! in reply to Justin, 10-24-2002 19:49:31  
I would go along with Steve pretty much except I would go easy on trying to pry a stuck engine by the ring gear, Those teeth are pretty brittle and if you break one it is a lot more work replacing that ring gear! It's pretty easy to pull the head and pan and see what you can see.

Dave



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Pulled the starter and the teeth are suck now what?

10-27-2002 16:03:22




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 Re: Re: Stuck Wd engine I need help freeing it up! in reply to Dave K, 10-25-2002 17:10:13  
Hello, I puleld the starter today and the teeth are stuck. Does that mean I have to split the engine in 2 or what? I hope not. I am limited on tools and don't have that stuff so if anybody has any suggestions I would appreciate it. I have not taked then head off yet cause I am still trying to get the hood off without damaging the tin. Some of the bolts have rusted to the tin and are giving me a tuff time gettin em off..

Thnaks,
Jusitn

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steve

10-25-2002 16:02:36




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 Re: Stuck Wd engine I need help freeing it up! in reply to Justin, 10-24-2002 19:49:31  
one step at a time. --pull the starter and check taht it is not stuck
--use a pry bar thru the starter hole to try to turn the flywheel tooth by tooth.
--remove the valve cover and look at valves.
--tap each valve slightly with a hammer and see that it bounces down and back up, not sticking down.
--pull the oil pan and look at the bottom end
--pull the head off, see whcih piston is stuck.
--remove connecting rod caps one at a time and see when the crank starts to move--that piston is stuck.
--push up on stuck piston and push it out the top, hope the sleeve dont come also.
--if crank is stuck when connecting rods are loose, pull motor.

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steve

10-25-2002 16:04:51




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 Re: Re: Stuck Wd engine I need help freeing it up! in reply to steve, 10-25-2002 16:02:36  
before you pull the pan or head, you might fill the cylinder with WD40 or PB blaster and let it set a few days to see if it can free the stuck rings (if piston is the problem)



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punchie

10-25-2002 15:05:39




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 Re: Stuck Wd engine I need help freeing it up! in reply to Justin, 10-24-2002 19:49:31  
HI Justin

Where are you at ?

Punchie



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Justin

10-25-2002 20:10:34




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 Re: Re: Stuck Wd engine I need help freeing it up! in reply to punchie , 10-25-2002 15:05:39  
I am in Florida. North Florida border line with Ga. I am only 18 nd am doing this because I jsut restored a B well almost all the way done and am Loving it so I figured this would be a great experience!

Thanks,
Justin



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Punchie

10-26-2002 16:52:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Stuck Wd engine I need help freeing it up! in reply to Justin, 10-25-2002 20:10:34  
Hi Justin

PA here near Pittsburgh.

Punchie



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Dave of Southwest Michigan

10-25-2002 09:13:46




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 Re: Stuck Wd engine I need help freeing it up! in reply to Justin, 10-24-2002 19:49:31  
Justin, Hi. Just a thought you might want to check. You didn't say what might have caused the engine to stick, so I'm just giving you a bit of my experience.

I have a little C that was running just fine (I thought) till it surged a couple of times, stopped in her tracks, and wouldn't turn over for love'ner'money!

The fellas on the forum were fantastic, and I surmised that at least part of the problem was governor associated. Imagine my surprise when I decided that it would be a good time to have the starter overhauled while it was down and I was contemplating a major overhaul, that when I went to pull the starter, the starter drive was still engaged in the flywheel!! Soon as I pulled the starter out, the motor was free as a bird!!! The last time I had started her up, she was hard to start, but that was when the drive "stuck" and was driven by the flywheel till the starter motor seized tight, locking everything up. Fortunately I did no damage to the ring gear. I did replace a well-worn governor and things are hummin' again.

So you might want to at least consider this possibility.

Dave of Southwest Michigan.

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Justin

10-25-2002 20:14:19




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 Re: Re: Stuck Wd engine I need help freeing it up! in reply to Dave of Southwest Michigan, 10-25-2002 09:13:46  
You know what I hope thats' all it is. Cause the man who gave me the tractor parked it 5 years ago cause he said it jsut wasn't running right and then next time he tried to start her up she was stuck. I will try that. I will keep everyone posted for sure on it. I am going to a tractor show tommorow so hopefully on Sunday or monday I can get thats tarter off.

Thanks!
Justin



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Dave of Southwest Michigan

10-31-2002 12:53:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Stuck Wd engine I need help freeing it up! in reply to Justin, 10-25-2002 20:14:19  
Hope that's what it turns out to be Justin. Keep us informed. Dave



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Chad L

10-25-2002 05:30:42




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 Re: Stuck Wd engine I need help freeing it up! in reply to Justin, 10-24-2002 19:49:31  
In my opinion the first thing to do is find out where you're at. Pull the head, oil pan and bearing caps. That should give you an idea as to what stuck it. If the crank is scored up I don't think you will have any choice but to pull the engine. It shouldn't be that bad though. You can get the engine out without splitting the tractor.



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Justin

10-25-2002 20:16:34




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 Re: Re: Stuck Wd engine I need help freeing it up! in reply to Chad L, 10-25-2002 05:30:42  
THANKS everyone for the help! I will try tog the starter off on Sunday or monday and start there and see what else needs to eb pulled. Any ideas on how to get parts off like manifold when all of the bolts have cracked? They are so rusted in adn the manifold is like one piece with the engine lol..

Thanks again! I will keep everyone posted! Any mroe sugestions would be appreciated to!

Justin



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