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tyler

10-20-2002 18:03:11




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Thinking of buying a D-19 gas was wondering if a 301 motor would fit in it,and if it will how much trouble is it? Thanks




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John W.

10-21-2002 00:47:40




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 Re: D-19 in reply to tyler, 10-20-2002 18:03:11  
Tyler; As I have said many times, You can adapt just about any engine to anything else,,,, if you REALLY want to. Installing a 301 diesel in a D-19 will be asking a great deal of the transmission and differential. My question to you would be, why? D-19's are very good tractors as is, the addition of a 301 diesel will gain you many headaches , not to mention broken parks. A 301 will not be a direct swap, An adapter plate will have to made for the engine and bell housing, since the bolt patterns are different. Motor mounts are different also as well as mount location. As a suggestion, a small caterpillar engine, such as a 1306, 190 cid six cylinder would be a better choice. It still is'nt a direct swap, will still need adapters and such. You will get a sizable power increase and a lot fewer broken parts.

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Smooth Criminal

10-21-2002 23:27:33




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 Re: Re: D-19 in reply to John W., 10-21-2002 00:47:40  
I have a pull tractor called Smooth Criminal. It`s a D-19 with a 301 allis engine.(turbocharged) It was extremely difficult to make this engine fit. Unless you are planning on building an all-out pulling tractor, this engine would be a terrible transplant for eveyrday farm use in my opinion. My tractor came with a gas engine and it took lots of time and money to make this engine swap. Everything from the steering wheel forward HAS TO BE ALTERED greatly. I`ve read for months and months about what different people seem to think about putting a 301 in a D-19 and so far, at least to the best of my knowlege, my 19 is the only one out there with this engine in it. If anyone else out there has one, I`d love to hear from them. I`d like to exchange information and pictures too.

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AC190

10-21-2002 07:31:08




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 Re: Re: D-19 in reply to John W., 10-21-2002 00:47:40  
What do you mean by "broken parts"? The 301 is a very reliable engine and would be a better choice than a Cat. How much of a power increase would the 190 cid Cat give. A 301 AC with out turbo would give 60 to 80 PTO HP economically and would not over tax the rest of the tractor. If the Cat would give a "sizable power increase" wouldn't that over tax a tractor ment for 70 HP. Do you know anything about Allis or the 301 engine?

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tyler

10-21-2002 05:37:44




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 Re: Re: D-19 in reply to John W., 10-21-2002 00:47:40  
Thank you for your comments. I'm looking for an engine that would just swap in there.I'm new to this style allis and I just don't know much about them. We have just bought a 17 a couple of months ago,and we've found this 19 last week. The tractor is pretty rough and is going to need a lot of work. I grew up on allis but nothing this old. Any help would be nice. This 19 has a 2 point lift system,how hard is it to find parts to switch it over to a 3 point hitch system? Again thank you for your help.

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53wd

10-21-2002 18:33:41




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 Re: Re: Re: D-19 in reply to tyler, 10-21-2002 05:37:44  
hey find a gleaner A gas they should bolt right in



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53wd

10-21-2002 18:33:26




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 Re: Re: Re: D-19 in reply to tyler, 10-21-2002 05:37:44  
hey find a gleaner A gas they should bolt right in



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