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Help with a WD

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Jim

10-18-2002 19:40:04




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I was just given a WD tractor. It needs four new tires and possibly a new rear rim. I would love to restore this tractor and use it around the house to mow with a four foot brush mower,a disc, and a blade to smooth the driveway. It has not ran for two years. What should I do first?




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Ross

10-19-2002 21:40:24




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 Re: Help with a WD in reply to Jim, 10-18-2002 19:40:04  
Jim, or anybody else for that matter, do you know what brand that mower is on your tractor? I friend of mine has one and we can't figure it out.
Thanks
Ross



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Sheila Cole

10-19-2002 11:56:33




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 Re: Help with a WD in reply to Jim, 10-18-2002 19:40:04  
I have a WD bought new by my grandfather in 1950 totally restored by me. 49 didnt have distrubors. Checked your pictures. It is a WD but doubt 49 unless magneto was changed to distrubor



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Hedgehog

10-19-2002 17:44:41




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 Re: Re: Help with a WD in reply to Sheila Cole, 10-19-2002 11:56:33  
sorry to tell you but you could get bat or mag,I have '50' WD with a mag and low compresion to run on distalit fuel,but works well on gas.



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Jim Dean

10-19-2002 11:29:58




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 Re: Help with a WD in reply to Jim, 10-18-2002 19:40:04  
I posted some photos of my WD on the web at
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Please let me know if it is really a WD. I know the stickers say it is, but I need someone that really is familiar with WD's to look at them and let me know.
Thanks,
Jim Dean
Crescent City,FL



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Sid

10-19-2002 18:40:57




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 Re: Re: Help with a WD in reply to Jim Dean, 10-19-2002 11:29:58  
Jim the straight gear shift and the absence of snap coupler indicate you tractor is an early model WD. I learned to operate tractor on a WD and also own a WD. I am not aware of any danger of the old type draw bar hook up wich you have. In my mind the snap coupler is more of a convience than a safety issue. I would like to know what the safety issue mentioned earlier is. The presence of a distributer instead of a magneto indicates that someone updated this tractor. The presences of the Powercrater emblem suggest that this engine has been overhauled and would have a little more HP than original. Of course some one could just stick it on there and not have done anything. I would not be too concerned about engine at this time unless it is stuck or just flat out has no power. My gut feeling is that you have a good tractor here and will not have a lot to get it in good shape.From the looks of picture I would not mind owning a tractor like this.

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JMS/MN

10-20-2002 09:42:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Help with a WD in reply to Sid , 10-19-2002 18:40:57  
The safety issue mentioned might be that with the early mounting system, some implements had a cast part that slipped over and was pinned to the two lift arms. The spring-loaded latches used with later implements could open and release with an upward pressure from the implement. I can picture that being caused by either breakage of the pin latching the pull pole to the tractor, or accidental release of the snap-coupler pin. However, the implement is likely to roll over behind the tractor if the front releases and the lift arms are pinned with the early system. I doubt that there was a big rush of mortality because of it.

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Jim Dean from Crescent City, FL

10-19-2002 08:56:51




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 Re: Help with a WD in reply to Jim, 10-18-2002 19:40:04  
Thanks everyone for all the help. I was told my tractor was a WD, but I can not find a serial number that starts with WD. There is a part number that is AM3635-1 and a manufactured date of 1949. It looks just like the photo on this web site of a WD45.



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JMS/MN

10-19-2002 11:30:14




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 Re: Re: Help with a WD in reply to Jim Dean from Crescent City, FL, 10-19-2002 08:56:51  
The TRACTOR serial number is on the differeential, left side, below the brake cover (also alongside cover on extremely early WD. If the shift lever is straight, it's a WD, if curved, could be late WD or WD45. WD45 engine is solid cast on right side- WD has bolt-on cover like WC block. Engine serial number is on left side, rear of carb. WD45 engines start with 45-



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Ron

10-19-2002 08:08:17




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 Re: Help with a WD in reply to Jim, 10-18-2002 19:40:04  
For temporary, if you need to, check with your local ag- tire dealer.....he may be able to fix you up with some very cheap used tires..... can help you keep moving forward without spending too much money... The WD will handle a 6' Bush Hog, and a 3-14" mounted plow...both can be found, and cheap.. be sure to check all gears for good operation, including the PTO. ONE THING...I NEVER put the PTO in gear, without putting the transmission in gear first... This stops the transmission, and you won't grind any gears...and you DON'T want to tear out the PTO, believe me...!!! If it does not have the "snap-Coupler".get one....it is SAFER than the old cross-bolt attachment.. get all three parts--2 of them go on the lift arms...so if the bottom snap-coupler ever releases, the implement will release from the tractor... The old arrangement has killed many operaters. Get the Snap- Couplers, if it doesent have them, they are easy to find.. You're gonna like that WD...and you can get a 3-point conversion for it, that snaps into the coupler, in place of the drawbar..

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JMS/MN

10-19-2002 11:27:08




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 Re: Re: Help with a WD in reply to Ron, 10-19-2002 08:08:17  
You're supposed to use the foot clutch to put either one in gear- doesn't matter which order it is done in. The hand clutch is designed to only provide live pto and hydraulics. If you can shift with the hand clutch, it's because of wear developed over the years.



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Ron

10-19-2002 20:12:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Help with a WD in reply to JMS/MN, 10-19-2002 11:27:08  
Operate it the way I said, and you will prevent trouble.



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JMS/MN

10-20-2002 15:43:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Help with a WD in reply to Ron, 10-19-2002 20:12:07  
Been operating them since 1957, less 7 years for military and college, and have yet to break a tranny gear or pto. Use the foot clutch to shift either one, in either order. You only do damage if you don't wait for the gears to quit turning, whether they are tranny or pto. No need to scare anyone with advice that is not appropriate.



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Ron

10-20-2002 19:19:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Help with a WD in reply to JMS/MN, 10-20-2002 15:43:59  
Well, I have not torn out a pto from my "45"----( and we have run two since new--a 1955 and a 1957 )... One went out on it's own, and it was a major job to split the tractor, and buy all the needed gears... An ounce of prevention is worth a TON of regrets...!! Sorry if I caught you in a Sorry Mood, but get your head on straight and think about it... I know about these, too....we lived on them for years, and still do...and they still would pass for new except for the paint... Any more of this is not worth my time...your attitude is NOT welcome here, or anywhere else here, either.....

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Excuse me

10-22-2002 20:14:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Help with a WD in reply to Ron, 10-20-2002 19:19:41  
Is your attitude any better



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Dale(MS)

10-19-2002 07:04:11




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 Re: Help with a WD in reply to Jim, 10-18-2002 19:40:04  
Jim, If you are going to restore it I would tell you to get the manuals on the way.(can be ordered from this site or others). Start spraying every bolt on the tractor with your favorite penetrating spray. Get tractor in good spot in shop and start removing stuff. Put bolts,nuts,washers, etc. in zip-lock bags. Be sure to write something on the bag to in order to identify them later.Stare at tractor alot. Read everything you can find about your tractor. The WD and WD-45 are similar. Buy lots of tools! ( sockets,grinders with wire brushes,wrenches,hammers,saftey glasses,dust masks,air compressor with assorted tools,screwdrivers,torque wrenches,cutting torch,sand blasting equip,just to name a few. Don't worry these can be part of your wealth building/estate planning program.) Get dirty, have fun,be safe and hope the restoration bug doesn't bite to hard. P.S. there is something about orange that makes you feel good! Dale

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steve

10-19-2002 06:43:06




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 Re: Re: Help with a WD in reply to Jim Danforth, 10-19-2002 06:28:31  
--drain and change oils
--chekc the magnito for spark, clean it and plugs
--drain gas tank and lines and flush
--pour gas in and see if carburetor bowl leaks thru
--crank and see if it will start and run
--put enough air in tires to move around the yard and test transmission and final drives for bearing noise.
--from here you can install new tires, wash and clean the entire tractor, replace wires, lights, new plugs, repiar leaks, etc.
--make sure what is wrong or leaks and it is fixed prior to starting to "paint " anything

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rayinny

10-19-2002 12:00:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Help with a WD in reply to steve, 10-19-2002 06:43:06  
Make sure there is no water in the gearboxes.



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Jack

10-20-2002 21:38:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Help with a WD in reply to rayinny, 10-19-2002 12:00:55  
Gentlemen- the foot clutch is for normal operations such as shifting gears-engaging pto's etc. The hand clutch was primarily designed for the roto baler etc in order to provide a live pto situation. As to the snap coupler-it was far more conveniant to hook up implements and was designed to release the implement upon hitting an obstruction-and not for operator safety. I am 71 years old and started driving tractor when I was 10-and I don't mean playing. This is a fine forum and web-site. A couple of attitudes on this particular discussion were totally out of context I thought-we need to help each other to learn and yes at 71 thank God, I am still capable of learning-so lets get along and be positive. Jack

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