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Dead IB- Question #'s 1 2

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Steve (WI)

10-15-2002 21:05:15




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Hello all,

I'm thinking about bringing home a dead IB with a loader that has been sitting in the elements for quite awhile. It might help my domestic situation regarding tractors if I do one for the wife. This surely will be a complete tear down and I know nothing about B's. Lots of questions to follow I'm sure.

#1 Is the sheet metal for the IB exactly like the B and is the B metal interchangeable with the C and/or CA? (If I remember right the grill is different on the CA?)

#2 While on the subject of interchangability what about other parts between the B & C.

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Steve

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steve

10-16-2002 18:59:24




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 Re: Dead IB- Question #'s 1 2 in reply to Steve (WI), 10-15-2002 21:05:15  
I just rebuilt a IB '52 finished early this year. there were some changes in the B and C from 1938 to 1955 in gas tank mounting, final drive gearing ratios, etc. Basically for any given year the B,C, and IB were the same.....
-the hood, tank and radiator grill are same as a B. The C is slightly different since the steering are goes in a hole under the radiator.
-rear axle and transmission are the same as the B. The C has a wider rear axle and the final drive gearing may be different ratio than the B.
-The torque tube between the motor and transmission is shorter on the IB about 6 inches, dont ask why, one of the mysteries of the world.
-The rear fenders were cut out of the same sheet pattern as the WD-45. THe differences are there is an extra stamped "raised ridge" on the 45 that does not show up on the IB because it bolts flat to a mounting pad. This is easily slit, pounded flat, and putty finished to make it look exactly like the IB. -THe IB fender mounts 8 inches higher than on the WD so you need to cover up the axle cutout hole with a 10 x 10 flat sheetmetal, and drill a couple extra mounting holes for the 5 inch c-channel that connects to the front edge of the fender. easily done. lay them side by side and you get the idea. I used WD 45 fenders and it is a perfect match.
-IB has additional foot gas pedal so it has a couple extra parts that are not on the B.
-IB can have pty and hydraulics. as mentioned about 1/2 of the units were "tugs" and dont need this. the other 1/2 were purchased by state and county road crews and were equipped with sickle bar mowers for grass maintenance so these had pto and hydraulics.
-Main difference on the IB is that the rear axles are rotated 90degrees, there is a straight axle on the front (IB only), the torque tube is shorter, and there is a 5 inch c-channel around the radiator and back to rear fenders as a "frame".
-battery box is mounted on the left rear fender which i hate. i put mine inside the right side frame rail infront of the gas pedal- looks great.
-seat is not bench, it is a pan with leaf spring mount on a special transmission bracket plate. looks thike the WD, but i cant say for sure.
-if you need more info, just ask. if my digital camara ever gets fixed i could send details on specific areas if you need.
--one thing you will find is the tractor is front end light, since the axle is rotated forward 6 inches. I have a 275# weight mounted low bythe radiator lower tank--helps a lot if you have rear equipment, i have a 3 point i made for mine. if you have belly equipment you are o.k.

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John W.

10-15-2002 23:40:27




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 Re: Dead IB- Question #'s 1 2 in reply to Steve (WI), 10-15-2002 21:05:15  
Steve; Sheet metal is very simular. Grill is different. Engines are the same, IB is Industrial "B". A great number of parts interchange between IB's, B's And C's. Most IB's I have seen and worked on do not have a pto as they were used mainly as tugs or tow tractors, this made a pto an unwanted option.



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Alan

10-15-2002 21:21:07




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 Re: Dead IB- Question #'s 1 2 in reply to Steve (WI), 10-15-2002 21:05:15  
IB fenders are unique. Guard them with your life!



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dave

10-16-2002 05:16:07




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 Re: Re: Dead IB- Question #'s 1 2 in reply to Alan, 10-15-2002 21:21:07  
I believe the IB fenders are from a WC of WD....



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