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Dave

09-29-2002 08:00:41




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I have a 1943 C on steel that I want to restore. It has electric start. Can anyone tell me if this is correct, or did someone change the torque tube to put a starter on it? I know the C came out in 1940 but did they have elecrtic start right away? Any help would be apreciated as I want to do this one as historically correct as I can Thanks!




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Rod (NH)

09-29-2002 10:47:48




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 Re: electric start for C in reply to Dave, 09-29-2002 08:00:41  
Hi Dave,

I doubt anyone has changed the torque tube, although anything is possible. My 1942 B came from the factory with crank start but had the torque tube opening for a starter...it was blanked off with a cover plate...so it was fairly easy to add electric start later. My B also originally came on steel. I suspect your C may have been similar. Do you have a crank with it? You might also inspect the steering tube area inside the toolbox. If your tractor originally was crank start, there will be a U-shaped metal piece about 6 inches long that is tack-welded to the bottom of steering tube. This was used to house the crank that was slipped down parallel to the steering tube into the toolbox area. If there is any indication (from scratches or anything else inside this U-shaped piece) that a crank had been housed there in the past, then I would suspect your C did not have the starter originally. You might also carefully inspect the rear portion of the toolbox. If there is any indication that it was cut off in the field...eg, uneven edges...that would also be a telltale that it was converted to electric start after factory delivery. The crank-start toolbox was too long at the original bottom, adjacent to the torque tube, and it had to be shortened to permit installing a battery. It is unlikely (but possible) that an entire replacement toolbox was installed if the tractor was converted to electric start after delivery.

Rod

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chalmersbob

09-29-2002 12:52:36




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 Re: Re: electric start for C in reply to Rod (NH), 09-29-2002 10:47:48  
even my '55 ca has that sheet metal box mounted onto the steering tube, so that isn't a clue."c"s had electric start and lights unless ordered without, then the starter hole would have had a plug as ron stated about his "b" my '40 "b" is electric start from the factory. does the radiator frame have threaded holes to mount lights? hood should also have lazy u notches at light location



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CHALMERSBOB

09-29-2002 08:09:27




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 Re: electric start for C in reply to Dave, 09-29-2002 08:00:41  
MOST MODEL "C" HAD ELECTRIC START & LIGHTS



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Dave

09-29-2002 22:45:12




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 Re: Re: electric start for C in reply to CHALMERSBOB, 09-29-2002 08:09:27  
Thanks alot ChalmersBob and Rod. My C does have pieces under the steering tube for the crank. It also has threaded holes and notches in the hood for lights. The toolbox is the long kind, so someone made a battery box out of angle iron and bolted it to the side of the toolbox. I think that from what you guys are saying is that my C came from the factory with a starter hole in the torque tube with a cover on it. The starter and homemade battery box was added later. So if I get the correct toolbox and batterybox, I should be able to put lights and generator on this tractor and it would be correct as far as anyone would know. This C also has the tall 22" stack for the air intake, so I know the steel wheels are correct as the tall stacks only came on the steel wheel models. Can you guys tell me why the tall stack only came with steel wheels? Thanks again!!

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Rod (NH)

09-30-2002 06:52:37




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 Re: Re: Re: electric start for C in reply to Dave, 09-29-2002 22:45:12  
Dave,

It sure looks like your C came from the factory the same as my B. Not surprising during the war years. Most likely it came from the factory with a blanked starter hole. The long toolbox would be the deciding feature for me...must have been a crank-start from the factory and electric was added later. Kinda odd though that whoever did the add-on that they did not also add the generator at the same time. You will need to get two brackets to mount the generator since you probably don't already have them. Plus you may or may not have the proper wiring harness and correct switchbox (with ammeter and special light switch) mounted on the steering column support.

That's an interesting bit of trivia about the taller air intake. I always wondered why mine seemed quite a bit taller than others I have seen. I would be interested in the actual reason why also...I cannot make the connection with steel wheels. You must also have the extended fenders like my B. See picture at link. It is my understanding that this type of fender was unique to the steel-wheel models, common during the war years.

Rod

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