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Front Pedestal 1948 Model C

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09-01-2002 19:22:01

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Anyone have any suggestions for obtaining new upper and lower oil seals for the shaft inside the pedestal? The lower one is a National Seal #40155. Have not removed the the upper seal yet, but would appreciate any suggestions on the easiest way to remove it. Also, what is the best source for Timken #14138A roller bearing? Thanks for any suggestions or information.

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Dana (IA)

09-01-2002 20:32:12

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 Re: Front Pedestal 1948 Model C in reply to Tom, 09-01-2002 19:22:01  

I replaced all the bearings and seals on my '47 C tricycle front earlier this year during a full restoration job. My local bearing distributer was able to get both the seals and bearings/races for me.

I don't know that there is an easy way to remove them (just be patient and take your time). But as for reinstalling the top seal, I made a custom fit bearing "installer" on my wood lathe (I turned a wooden cylinder down to the right diamater so I could slide the seal onto it). The cylinder was long enough to extend out of the pedestal and had a lip just slightly smaller than the outside diameter of the seal. This allowed me to gently tap the seal into place.

If I remember correctly, the bottom seal was a bit more difficult as the bearing and seal had to be installed on the shaft and then the shaft reinstalled. If I remember correctly, I think this was the worst part of the entire job. Be careful as you have to keep a close eye on the seal so it doesn't get damaged during reinstallation of the shaft(an extra set of hands should eliminate the problems that I had!).

If you need any part numbers, I have the seal and bearing numbers. All replacement bearings/races were Timken and all seals were Chicago Rawhide. Just shoot me an email if you need them.

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09-03-2002 17:53:27

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 Re: Re: Front Pedestal 1948 Model C in reply to Dana (IA), 09-01-2002 20:32:12  

I would appreciate the Chicago Rawhide seal part numbers if you can provide them. Thanks.

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Dana - Here's part #'s

09-03-2002 19:33:22

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 Re: Re: Re: Front Pedestal 1948 Model C in reply to Tom, 09-03-2002 17:53:27  
Front Pedestal Lower Bearing Timken 14138A, Front Pedestal Lower Bearing Race Timken 14276, Front Pedestal Upper Seal Chicago Rawhide 13568, Front Pedestal Bottom Seal Chicago Rawhide 17557, Pedestal Cross Shaft (Pinion) Seal Chicago Rawhide 12360

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Toby T. Wellborn

12-18-2005 15:57:01

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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Front Pedestal 1948 Model C in reply to Dana - Here's part #'s, 09-03-2002 19:33:22  
Was reading some seal topics in the AC Forum and noticed that you may have a listing of cross-referenced oil seal for Allis b and c's.
I 1945 & 1950 Allis B and 1948 Allis C.
Could you email me any cross-reference that you have...

Thanks for your assistance!


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