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D14 or 17? and other questions...

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07-21-2002 20:40:45

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I'm helping my brother-in-law (I hope, anyway), by getting the AC d1X up-and-running, replacing belts/hoses/wires and whatever. (He got it from my brother who got it from my brother-in-law who got it from HIS brother-in-law who got it from ...)

I suffer CRS and although I think they said it's a D-17, I don't remember for sure, so my first question is, where do I find the model and s/n, and where can I go to find out what year it is? I poked around the archives a bit, and think it may even be a series II (If it is a d17) based on the fact that it has wheel weights.

It has a New Idea loader on it, just a drop-bucket, and I'm pretty sure THAT will be easy to figure out, but it has a lot more levers and things to push and pull than my 641 Ford, so I think that acquiring a manual would probably be a good idea. So the next question is, would an IT manual be sufficient, or would it be worth tracking down a re-print of an original owner or operator's manual?

I pulled the nose/radiator assembly off. Is that a power-steering unit there? Where does it get oil from, or do I add it up there, and if so, with what?

My brother hasn't used the tractor in 6-9 years, since he got his diesel International, which is why he sold it, just to keep it from setting up. I think he had trouble starting it, and I can see that he would because the battery cables seem too light for a 6-volt system.

My part of the project is just to get it starting/running/charging reliably, and make sure the lights work, but it has these interesting "options", so I won't be able to resist the urge to play, too, and I would like to know whatever I can about the toy, so thanks for any help you can give.


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found that D14 s/n

07-25-2002 19:04:32

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 Re: D14 or 17? and other questions... in reply to DonP, 07-21-2002 20:40:45  
Found it, thanks guys.
It is D14 11188

Hope to have it running in a week or so, too many other projects 'cooking' to get more than an hour or two a week into it. I'll keep you posted as to my progress, mostly because I'll have a bunch more questions as I go along!

Thanks again.

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07-22-2002 10:14:55

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 Re: D14 or 17? and other questions... in reply to DonP, 07-21-2002 20:40:45  
D14 is smaller, has a bent shifter. D17 is larger and has a straight shift lever. Get the operator's manual for basic maintenance, lube, and operational instructions. IT manuals are good, and cover repair- disassembly, repair, reinstallation of components.

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07-25-2002 18:57:11

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 Re: Re: D14 or 17? and other questions... in reply to JMS/MN, 07-22-2002 10:14:55  
Yep, got that bent shifter, kinda funny looking thing, and just missed being able to get the operator manual into the dealer Monday, will have to wait another week, but it's cheap enough to be worth the wait.

Did find the s/n and so on, thanks for the help.

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07-22-2002 22:37:51

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 Re: Re: D14 or 17? and other questions... in reply to Ralph, 07-21-2002 21:21:41  
Torque tube is the skinny part of the tractor between the engine and the transmission. Front part of the torque tube is wider, right behind the engine, and contains the engine clutch. Main part of the tube runs below the fuel tank, and then connects to the transmission, in front of the seat. The serial number is located at the left front of the torque tube, over the clutch (wider ) part, just rearward of the engine.

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07-22-2002 10:04:22

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 Re: Re: D14 or 17? and other questions... in reply to Ralph, 07-21-2002 21:21:41  
Remembered I didn't really look at the hood when I took it off, it does still say D14.

Did find the engine tag, appears to say 149-11204 or maybe 149-112041, but did not find the serial #.

Did they do the Series thing with the D14, too?


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07-24-2002 04:33:14

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 Re: Re: Re: D14 or 17? and other questions... in reply to DonP(CRS is getting worse), 07-22-2002 10:04:22  
Nice to meet another D14 person . I also have a D14 .You will know when you find the serial when you see D14 and a bunch of numbers behind that.Sometimes you have to take a piece of paper and a pencil and rub the lead across the paper over the numbers to actually see what the numbers are.Because of grease or paint build up if it had ever been repainted.

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07-25-2002 19:27:59

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 Re: Re: Re: Re: D14 or 17? and other questions... in reply to Roger, 07-24-2002 04:33:14  

Got it, thanks! (See above).

I just noticed that the rims seem to be adjustable (not that this is important with it not running yet...). Is that a common feature among Allis'? And can it be done without removing the wheel weights? I suppose the "how-to" may be in the operator's manual. I'm starting to get excited about this. Ooh! I forgot to ask what year it might have been made. I'll hunt for that info tomorrow at work, the connection is faster.

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07-26-2002 00:24:02

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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: D14 or 17? and other questions... in reply to DonP, 07-25-2002 19:27:59  
AC introdiced power-adjusted rear wheels in 1948, with the WD. Also invented roll-shift front axle, with the D series, 1957? Others copied them in later years. Rear wheels can be adjusted using engine power- check the OPERATOR manual for detail- need to loosen some bolts and set locks on the power-shift rails to move the wheels to where you want them. Should be able to adjust them without removing wheel weight. D14 came out in 1957.

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