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Difficult Shifting

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Vic Lovejoy

07-10-2002 20:38:32




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As I have been driving my '54 WD45 more and more, mowing the pasture and moving the tractor around to work on it, I'm noticing how difficult it is to shift gears. With the foot clutch fully depressed, trying to put it in gear, the gear shift lever seems to be up against a solid blockage - when I feather the clutch pedal out a little, I can feel the lever bump a few times then it goes into gear. It's the same with first and reverse. I'm mowing in second most of the time so I don't really shift that much, but a couple of times when I tried the pedal feathering it really caused the gears to grind and I'm afraid I'm going to break something.

Is there an adjustment I can make to the clutch/pedal/shifting mechanism so it will shift more smoothly?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

vic

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Jim in Michigan

07-17-2002 19:20:26




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 Re: Difficult Shifting in reply to Vic Lovejoy, 07-10-2002 20:38:32  
The WD45 wasnt meant to shift with the hand clutch, if it does something is worn,, I think the mower is your trouble,, I have the same problem with mine when I have the baler running, when it stops turning the tractor shifts fine,, I put a overrun unit from another baler on it and now it is fine,,,,My opinion....Jim



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ACORANGE

07-14-2002 09:36:05




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 Re: Difficult Shifting in reply to Vic Lovejoy, 07-10-2002 20:38:32  
TRY SHIFTING WITH THE HAND CLUTCH ,AND IF YOUR MOWER IS TURNING THE TRANS. WILL SHIFT HARD. ALSO I HAVE FOUND WITH MY WD IF YOUR TRANS. OIL IS LOW OR IF YOU ARE USEING THE WRONG WEIGHT LUBE [90WT. INSTEAD OF 140WT.] THE GEARS IN THE TRANS. WILL NOT SLOW DOWN ENOUGH TO LET YOU SHIFT. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR PROBLEM ...HOPE THIS HELPS



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Farmer Brown

07-12-2002 08:21:08




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 Re: Difficult Shifting in reply to Vic Lovejoy, 07-10-2002 20:38:32  
If you are mowing with a rotary Bush Hog type cutter, then an overrunning clutch on the PTO will do wonders for shifting. Without an overrunning clutch, the rotary cutter acts as a flywheel to keep the gears turning in your drivetrain which makes it difficult to shift without coming to a complete stop.



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kjm

07-11-2002 17:05:42




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 Re: Difficult Shifting in reply to Vic Lovejoy, 07-10-2002 20:38:32  
Forget it has a foot clutch! Use the hand clucth,it`s an oil bath ver dry on the foot.



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JMS/MN

07-11-2002 22:13:08




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 Re: Re: Difficult Shifting in reply to kjm, 07-11-2002 17:05:42  
The foot clutch is meant to be used for shifting gears, not the hand clutch. Hand clutch is for getting live power. If it shifts with the hand clutch, it's because of excessive wear.



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rayinny

07-11-2002 12:56:44




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 Re: Difficult Shifting in reply to Vic Lovejoy, 07-10-2002 20:38:32  
I used to use a WD and never had any problem shifting into gear, same with a B. I always stopped and braked the tractors before changing gears.



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Jim (Mi)

07-11-2002 12:05:29




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 Re: Difficult Shifting in reply to Vic Lovejoy, 07-10-2002 20:38:32  
I noticed my trans (WD) is jerky when I am letting out the foot clutch if I have the quadrant in a raised position on the hydraulics. Also I definately have to slow the idle down before shifts.



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Trent Williams

07-11-2002 07:23:59




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 Re: Difficult Shifting in reply to Vic Lovejoy, 07-10-2002 20:38:32  
Are you bringing the engine to an idle when you shift? My D14 has to be at a slow idle. After having to do some work on my transmission, I can't stand to hear the grind.



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Butch (OH)

07-11-2002 05:25:19




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 Re: Difficult Shifting in reply to Vic Lovejoy, 07-10-2002 20:38:32  
The transmission does not have what are called synchronizers. These are what let you shift a car or pick up transmission without grinding. The stoppage you are experiencing is caused by the teeth on the sliders being lined up across from each other and is the nature of the thing. By trial and error you will discover how long after you shove the clutch to pull on the shifter. Ideally you would pull it in gear just before the transmission stops. A small mount of grinding won't hurt a thing. I know people who have just slammed them in gear for years with no apparent ill effects (but I donít). When you need to feather the clutch to get it in gear let off of the shifter first, that will help the grinding once you get used to when to pull it in gear.

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Butch (OH)

07-11-2002 05:25:10




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 Re: Difficult Shifting in reply to Vic Lovejoy, 07-10-2002 20:38:32  
The transmission does not have what are called synchronizers. These are what let you shift a car or pick up transmission without grinding. The stoppage you are experiencing is caused by the teeth on the sliders being lined up across from each other and is the nature of the thing. By trial and error you will discover how long after you shove the clutch to pull on the shifter. Ideally you would pull it in gear just before the transmission stops. A small mount of grinding won't hurt a thing. I know people who have just slammed them in gear for years with no apparent ill effects (but I donít). When you need to feather the clutch to get it in gear let off of the shifter first, that will help the grinding once you get used to when to pull it in gear.

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Punchie

07-11-2002 19:39:43




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 Re: Re: Difficult Shifting in reply to Butch (OH), 07-11-2002 05:25:10  
HI

Vic

Butch is right. I would add check the oil, and I have had the same trouble for years, from time to time. Just have to get the hand of the working of the tractor. I would never shift on the go.

Good Luck !!

Punchie



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