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How many h.p. is a Gleaner E?

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Allis Puller

07-09-2002 04:08:51




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I tried to look it up in my book but can't find what the stock h.p. is in a Gleaner E. Is it the same as a D-17 cuz I think those are 54.




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GeneD14

07-09-2002 06:19:58




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 Re: How many h.p. is a Gleaner E? in reply to Allis Puller, 07-09-2002 04:08:51  
71 hp. I put a Gleaner E engine in a D17 2 summers ago. I had to put a D19 carb, gov, and modify some linkage and block off the fuel pump hole.



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Butch(OH)

07-09-2002 09:10:13




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 Re: Re: How many h.p. is a Gleaner E? in reply to GeneD14, 07-09-2002 06:19:58  
Gene, Was that 71HP on a dyno? I have read that the Gleaner motors were higher HP, but also read that they were the same as D-17 with the HP difference being the tractor motors were rated at PTO HP at 540 RPM vs the combine motors which ran a little faster and rated at the flywheel. Just curious



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DanD.

07-09-2002 13:50:26




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 Re: Re: Re: How many h.p. is a Gleaner E? in reply to Butch(OH), 07-09-2002 09:10:13  
The Gleaner E uses the model "17" engine. However, newer ones at least used the engine as found in the 170 tractor with the 8.0:1 compression ratio compared to the 7.2:1 like found in the D17. It's easy to tell what your engine is. Look for the engine serial number near the carburator. It will read 17-######-a letter. If the letter at the end is an "M", then you have the engine like found in the D17 with a 7.2:1 ratio. If it's a "Z", then it's 8.0:1 like in a 170. The 175 gas and D17 LP used an 8.2:1 ratio and the letter on those engines was a "V". As for the speed of the engines, high idle on the combine is slower then high idle on the tractor. Also remember that flywheel horsepower will be higher than say PTO horsepower because as you're going through gears and clutches, etc., some power is lost because no machine is 100% efficient.

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Mike B(SD)

07-11-2002 08:25:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: How many h.p. is a Gleaner E? in reply to DanD., 07-09-2002 13:50:26  
Awesome post Dan thanks for the info.
I might also add that the M code D-17 engine was rated at 63 flywheel or sometimes refered to as brake horsepower and 54 PTO horsepower. Allis engineers used what the call the 86% rule, for example simple take 63x.86=54 PTO horsepower to calcualte for the power loss through the various clutches and gears required to run the power take-off. I don't have any literature showing a horsepower rating for the Z code engines but if 71
is correct it would be 71flywheelx.86=61 PTO horsepower which is about exactly what a 170 gas engine would be rated at.

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