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ALLIS B RAIN PROBLEM

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IH_1468

05-26-2002 21:19:30




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WE OWN 3 ALLIS B'S AND ON EVERY SINGLE ONE WHEN IT RAINS IT LEAKS WATER DOWN THE PIPE THROUGH THE MANIFOLD AND INTO THE ENGINE AND IT IS THEN REALLY HARD TO START THE ONLY WAY TO PREVENT THIS IS TO SHED IT AND THAT NOT A CHOICE SO WHAT HAVE YOU GUYS DONE TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM

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Greg Ballantyne

05-28-2002 19:41:24




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 Re: ALLIS B RAIN PROBLEM in reply to IH_1468, 05-26-2002 21:19:30  
I put a 5 gal. bucket over mine, but not to keep the rain out. The bucket keeps the exhaust pipe from tearing the tarp. The tarp will be throwed out when I build the tractor shed. That seat sure will hold a lot of water anyhow.



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IH_1468

05-28-2002 19:53:28




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 Re: Re: ALLIS B RAIN PROBLEM in reply to Greg Ballantyne, 05-28-2002 19:41:24  
WE'LL WE USE IT EVERYDAY TO SPREAD SAND AND THE TARP IS JUST A NUSINCE TO PUT ON AND GET OFF, AND I WOULD FORGET TO PUT IT ON ALSO, WE ARE GOING TO TRY THE TAPPING THE MANIFOLD AND THAT SHOULD WORK, BUT ALLIS DIDN'T THINK THIS THING THREW VERY GOOD WHEN THEY DESIGNED IT



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markp

05-28-2002 17:25:31




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 Re: ALLIS B RAIN PROBLEM in reply to IH_1468, 05-26-2002 21:19:30  
The B I have has to sit out in the weather too. I use a pepsi can with the top cut out and it works fine. For the drinkers out there a bud can will work just as well.



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Duey (IA)

05-27-2002 18:34:08




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 Re: ALLIS B RAIN PROBLEM in reply to IH_1468, 05-26-2002 21:19:30  
IH_1468, I tapped the manifold inlet and installed a short piece of pipe. The oval muffler I used is for a D12 and just clamps on the pipe. I had to cut the hood to fit the muffler. With a rain cap there's no leaks. I did the same on my WD and installed an oval D17 muffler. Duey



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steve

05-27-2002 18:07:01




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 Re: ALLIS B RAIN PROBLEM in reply to IH_1468, 05-26-2002 21:19:30  
i just use a soup can on top if mine, but it sets in the barn. if the trouble is around the base of the muffler, how about a 2 inch pvc pipe about a foot long on the top to center it one the exhaust, then a bell reducer that flares out to 6 inch. a 6 inch pvc pipe about 2 feet long that sets over the muffler and donw on the hood should act as a good shed. could probably build one out of exhaust pipe material with a big flare or funnel on the bottom also, if you prefer steel.

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R J K

05-27-2002 15:53:15




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 Re: ALLIS B RAIN PROBLEM in reply to IH_1468, 05-26-2002 21:19:30  
Buy a tarp and cover it up, even if you just cover the problem area.



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Chuck

05-27-2002 15:25:49




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 Re: ALLIS B RAIN PROBLEM in reply to IH_1468, 05-26-2002 21:19:30  
I have heard of some people welding a ring around the lower end of the exhaust. It would angle down and resemble an upside down funnel slid over the pipe. This diverts the water away from the manifold. I haven't seen this but it sounds like it would work.



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Steve in N.J.

05-27-2002 05:19:48




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 Re: ALLIS B RAIN PROBLEM in reply to IH_1468, 05-26-2002 21:19:30  
IH,
If your B's are equipped with the stand-up mufflers, (through the hood) a rain cap from Napa or equivelent truck or agri-store could help you out. The rain cap clamps to the end of the stack. When the machine isn't running the cap covers the end of the stack keeping rain or anything else from going down the exhaust stack and into the manifold. Measure the O.D. of the stack, and that will determine what size rain cap you need. When you start the tractor, the engine exhaust opens the rain cap. When you shut the engine down, the cap goes back to rest over the end of the stack covering it up again. If your B's are equipped with the "squash tube" style mufflers, I would think a small tin can that fits between the hood and the muffler would work fine to keep the rain out. When your ready to use the tractor, just pull the can off, and away you go. Just be careful in the summer time with the bees! They like to build "condos" in those tin cans, especially if the machine sits! Hope this helps...
Steve

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Eldon

05-27-2002 13:02:05




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 Re: Re: ALLIS B RAIN PROBLEM in reply to Steve in N.J., 05-27-2002 05:19:48  

I've got a C with the same problem.....it has a raincap but doesn't help. I think I will try JB weld where the muffler slips into the exhaust manifold. I'm tired of getting splattered with black rain when I start it up!



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1468_GUY

05-27-2002 13:29:36




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 Re: Re: Re: ALLIS B RAIN PROBLEM in reply to Eldon, 05-27-2002 13:02:05  
YEAH WE HAVE A RAINCAP ON THE MUFFLER AND IT DON'T HELP, IT RUNS DOWN THE PIPE THEN INTO THE MANIFOLD, WE TRIED SOME JB WELD AND IT STILL GETS RAIN IN EM', I THINK ITS A LOSS CAUSE



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Nick

05-27-2002 22:03:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: ALLIS B RAIN PROBLEM in reply to 1468_GUY, 05-27-2002 13:29:36  
My C had the same problem when it sat out in the rain at shows. I went to the larger under hood muffler and it hasnt done it again.



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HD

05-27-2002 17:24:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: ALLIS B RAIN PROBLEM in reply to 1468_GUY, 05-27-2002 13:29:36  
I have had the same problem with 460-560 also and it happens when the pipe threads get bad where they screw into the manifold.I have been able so far to fix this by buying a new section of threaded pipe and screwing it into the manifold as tight as I can with a pipe wrench. just my .02



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