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Zonie

03-11-2002 18:26:03




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Today I located a WC tractor out behind a house a couple miles from me in Tucson.
The WC needs 4 tires. Appears to be complete the old fella that owns it say's it runs but didn't offer to show me. He say's the only problem is the ring gear for the starter is missing some teeth. Oh, and a leak in the radiator.
It appears to me to not have been run in at least a few years if not longer.
when I asked the year He said it's a 30's but that's all he said. It is a styled WC. I looked at the serial # but didn't write it down. I think it started with 108**** not sure how many numbers after the 108.
The owner wants $850 for the tractor and says he has a couple usable rear tires that he'll throw in. He says he'll dicker a bit also.
I think this price is a bit high I know the battery box looks like it will fall off any second and there's not a battery in it.
I've restored a Farmall H recently but I know little about the AC's except that a WD-45 can whup my butt in a tractor pull!!! I'm not a died in the wool IH guy, I just work with what I can find!
My questions are:
1. What is the horse power of this tractor?
2. What is the weight of this tractor, would this make a decent tractor for the antique pulls.
3. Were the WC'c strictly gas or were there distillate tractors? if there were distillate tractors how could I tell if it were a distilate tractor?
4. when It comes time to rebuild would it be feaseable to build this engine up using WD-45 crank etc?
Thanks guys,
Zonie

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Bob Bair

03-12-2002 17:51:04




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 Re: WC questions??? in reply to Zonie, 03-11-2002 18:26:03  
My experience with the WC is cracked blocks.I used a gleaner Model E combine engine(the same or very simalar to the WD 45) cut a half inch off the front of the crank, bend the oil lines a little and use the 45 flywheel. bought the running engine for500.00 and the tractor for 125.00



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Tom McLaughlin

03-12-2002 10:43:38




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 Re: WC questions??? in reply to Zonie, 03-11-2002 18:26:03  
I have 2 WC engines with 45 parts in them. Works out fine. As far as pistons go, I've got the best results with Tisco four and a eighth overbore flat tops. I use the crank, connecting rods, cam, intake and carb. I have no problem pulling in the 3500lb. class. Power has never been a problem but traction has been with 14.9-28 tires. I tried 38's once. Worked fine except on the 3 mph. speed limit, the club had.

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Wayne

03-12-2002 07:12:12




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 Re: WC questions??? in reply to Zonie, 03-11-2002 18:26:03  
I paid $350.00 and a 12 pack of Miller Lite for my WC. It ran, but the rear tires and rims were shot. The front tires were new. All the sheet metal (styled) was good the only part that wasn't was the battery box, which is pretty common.



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BamaDee

03-12-2002 05:59:31




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 Re: WC questions??? in reply to Zonie, 03-11-2002 18:26:03  
Look for the engine serial # on the block, just below and to the right of the Carb. The low compression engine serial ends with a K, the gas only serial ends with a G.



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Tony C

03-11-2002 21:21:59




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 Re: WC questions??? in reply to Zonie, 03-11-2002 18:26:03  
1941 year. 30 HP. WD-45 Drops right in. Tony in Oregon.



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Bryan Smith

03-12-2002 05:43:24




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 Re: Re: WC questions??? in reply to Tony C, 03-11-2002 21:21:59  
The tractor fuel version was a lower compression ratio - easiest way I know to tell the difference is that most if not all tractor fuel versions had the short, flattened "snout" for an exhaust sticking out the side from under the hood, while gasoline versions had a true muffler through the hood (someone comment on that). Usually tractor fuel versions had a different intake manifold with a large plate or box, but I haven't seen enough WC's to know the difference in them. Tractor fuel version was 25.45 belt hp, while the gasoline version was 29.93 hp. Both had the 201 cubic inch engine (same size as a WD and can probably be retrofitted to a WD45 - at least a WD can). I have seen a highly modified D17 engine in a WC turning over 100 hp ....!

Weight as tested at Nebraska was around 4,500 lbs - of course the tractor weighs less than this.

$850 sounds awfully high unless he can crank it up for you and let you drive it around (I know the tires are down but on soft dirt you won't hurt the rims with a little movement). Usually around here WC's go for $400 to $800 running (unless restored), with WD's at $800 to $1200 and WD45's at $1200 to $1600 depending on condition. If he can't or won't crank it I wouldn't pay more than $400 if it's complete and no rust holes. Need to look for cracks in the block - no idea if he's kept antifreeze in it all these years. If the engine is stuck I wouldn't pay more than $250 and probably not that much..... be sure to check the shifter boot, if it cracked water could be in the transmission. If that were to freeze up (not likely, but possible) you could have some transmission damage if not corrosion.

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