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Cost of Restoring an Allis WC

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Don

03-08-2002 19:45:40

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I've got this dream of going out to look for the 1938 Allis WC that my father sold when he quit farming in 1973. I think it may be in a junkyard here in Missouri. Can anyone give me a ballpark figure on what it might cost to restore a tractor like that which has been out in the open for 30 years? I'd have to have someone else do the work.

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Knappy

03-09-2002 15:58:15

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Re: Cost of Restoring an Allis WC in reply to Don, 03-08-2002 19:45:40

I kind of had the same dream, only difference was my dad has not gotten rid of his WC, it is still sitting in the shed. I took a look at it and tried to figure out roughly what I was getting myself into and then started pricing parts. Well to make a long story short, the old adage applied, �if you have to ask how much, you probably can�t afford it.� I don�t mean to insult you, maybe you can and I really hope you can, but like the other guy said, make sure you are doing it because of your love for the tractor and your love for dad. Because if you look at it as an investment, it isn�t a good one. I still have the dream and maybe someday I will have the money. Thinking about it the one thing I do have are the memories of dad on that tractor and to be honest I can�t look at an AC without think of him. Money can�t by that. I hope you can do it for dad.

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Michael Griffin

04-27-2003 15:16:35

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Re: Re: Cost of Restoring an Allis WC in reply to Knappy, 03-09-2002 15:58:15

Hello, I own a restoration shop in Kansas. Let me know when you are ready to restore your WC. Also I just finishing up a WC now. It's a 1935. Take care! Home 785-827-7209

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FM...Does your dads run?

03-09-2002 16:46:22

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Re: Re: Cost of Restoring an Allis WC in reply to Knappy, 03-09-2002 15:58:15

If it doesn't, you can start working on it a little bitty part at a time...rebuild the carb today, the mag in a month, the tranny next year, the rear end the next...after done mechanically, do the cosmetics...it may take 5-6 years, but it will eventually get done. If you want someone else to do it, I guess that is a whole nother story.

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Aaron

03-09-2002 06:51:11

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Re: Cost of Restoring an Allis WC in reply to Don, 03-08-2002 19:45:40

I spent around 3 grand doing my 35. I'd be more than glad to discuss the various things my money went for if you want to e-mail me, but everything that could be wrong was wrong with mine. New tires were about 600, rebuild kit for the engine was 500, 200 for a crank, 200 for the head, 400 for the radiator, a bunch of other little things. I'm not trying to discourage you from finding and tackling the project, but think expensive, then add a zero and you'll be close.
Aaron

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Glenn(WV)

03-08-2002 21:30:35

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Re: Cost of Restoring an Allis WC in reply to Don, 03-08-2002 19:45:40

It depends on what you need to do with it to restore it. If the engine is badly stuck, it's not inconceivable to put BIG BUCKS in just the engine - and then there's the rest of the tractor, both mechanically and cosmetically.

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steve

03-08-2002 20:18:17

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Re: Cost of Restoring an Allis WC in reply to Don, 03-08-2002 19:45:40

I just rebuilt an Allis IB, i spent 300 hours and about $1000. for parts. The engine ran good when i started. Tires were decent on the rear, did not change. Did the work myself. If you pay someone at $15. hour, you are going to be $5-6000 to finish it. LIke the guys say, you never get out if it what you put into it. Especially if you have to pay someone to do the work.

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Steve (WI)

03-10-2002 05:21:33

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Re: Re: Cost of Restoring an Allis WC in reply to steve, 03-08-2002 20:18:17

Yea, it's true you cant get the money out of it if you SELL it...but...can you buy anything modern even close to the quality of these orange work horses.

My brother just paid $9000 for a used John Deer 720 (I think?)3-cyl diesel with a small hyd loader. One step above a lawn mower but not too much smaller than an IB. If this tractor is asked to do half as much work as your IB probably has done I highly doubt it will be around 50 years. Not to mention that the IB would pull it backwards up a muddy hill. I feel a big advantage of old AC's is that they are easily fixed...I'd like to have the money that JD is gonna cost in repairs over the next 50 years.

In Don's case it's probably more nostalgia. But if he hooks a mower up to it and gets to actually use it...the cost is about the same as a good riding lawnmower and will last another 70+ years.

MY 2C

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steve

03-10-2002 18:30:09

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Re: Re: Re: Cost of Restoring an Allis WC in reply to Steve (WI), 03-10-2002 05:21:33

I agree Steve. I would not trade my IB for a new Kubota. I like the old Orange, and it runs great. I buried my 3/4 ton Ford in the mud today with 4000 pounds of wood in the back. I connected a nylon barge rope to the IB and took off in 2nd gear. The 2000 pound tractor pulled the 8000 pound truck 6 ft at a time untill it was out. Took several shots. Big knobby tires dont get stuck too often. My point was it is quite an investment. If you are comparing it to a new $9000. tractor it is one good buy. If you compare it to the old tractors that sell for $2000. you wont be happy. Dont rebuild to seel, do it for the tractor. I plan on having mine for 30 years (im 48 now). AFter that ill give it to the grand kids. Probably work better than i will at that age.

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Tom

03-10-2002 17:14:47

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Re: Re: Re: Cost of Restoring an Allis WC in reply to Steve (WI), 03-10-2002 05:21:33

I have to agree with you that most of these modern tractors willhave been melted down and come back as something different a couple of times while an old AC will still be running. I am working on a WD that I plan on having outlive me.

As far as the cost, I agree with the others here, It could cost you 3 grand. However spread out over several years and the fun and satisfaction, what could be better. You could drink up that much beer, and have nothing to show for it, or easily spend that much each winter skiing, and not have near as much fun, maybe break a leg too and be out of work costing you more. Do like someone said, one part at a time, if you get temporarily stuck on one thing set it aside for a while and go on to something else while you figure out what to do with the first one. It isn't a race, the longer it takes the more time you get to have fun working on it. The guys here will help you out with advise when you need it, gop for it!

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Don

03-27-2002 07:55:22

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Cost of Restoring an Allis WC in reply to Tom, 03-10-2002 17:14:47

Thanks for all the advice. If I do find and restore this WC it'll be for nostalgia mainly and I'll probably do it over several years to spread out the cost (and the fun, of course). I've got a much more realistic idea now of the cost, thanks to you.

Don

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