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Replacing Brake Linings in WD

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Crank

01-27-2002 17:43:41




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Can you replace the brake linings in a WD through the inspection/adjustment covers or do you have to take the rear differential apart?




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Steve (Wi)

01-28-2002 16:17:14




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 Re: Replacing Brake Linings in WD in reply to Crank, 01-27-2002 17:43:41  
As the folks have said..."if the pin isnt stuck too bad". I did the job on my WD last summer and pulling the pins was a nightmere. (My next one will take much less time I'm sure.)

1- Take off both inspection plates- (this may involve taking off the seat also). Blow out thouroughly with a compressor and clean around the pin as best you can (you should be able to see the pin from the hole in the bottom)...this is a favorite nesting place for little critters.

2- Use your favorite penetrating oil (JB-80) and give the pin a thourough soaking from all angles. (Tap the pin with a hammer) If you are not in a hurry I would do this several times over the period of a day or so- at least overnight. This will give the drilling and tapping method it's best chance of working. If the pin turns but does not pull out set up a sleeve puller. (You can use a piece of all thread rod with a nut and washer(s)to pull against a pipe coupling or pipe that has a larger ID than the pin.

3- If step 2 does not work DONT WASTE YOUR TIME...the pin is NOT comeing out this way. (I tried heating, beating, cussing, sweet talking, and everything else I could think of.) You HAVE to cut the pin. This can be done carefully with a torch or very carefully with a sawz-all thru the bottom hole. (You must cut a chunk out of the middle.) The back part of the pin should come out easily- The front MAY have to be drivin through.

4-Any "old-type" tractor or auto repair shop should have a riviting tool made for installing your new linings.

5- Before re-installing the brakes make sure the pin hole is thouroughly clean. Use never-seeze on the pin in case you ever have to do the job again!It's also a good idea to pre drill and tap the new pin/s (if used) before installation...much easier to do on the bench.

6- Re-installling the brakes is a breeze...follow the other posts described proceedure and you should be trouble free.

Good luck -hope this helps if your pin is stuck.

Steve

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Tom

01-28-2002 17:03:28




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 Re: Re: Replacing Brake Linings in WD in reply to Steve (Wi), 01-28-2002 16:17:14  
I have to say I disagree with you about cutting the pin. What do you do with the inside piece? It will be rusted in and you now have no way of getting hold of it to pull it. Drilling and tapping seems like the only reasonable way. I say use a grade 8 bolt to do the pulling and a fine thread which has more steel left in it than a coruse thread. I believe it will come out using this method. It might be possible to use a half inch stud or bolt, but you will be taking a bigger chunk of metal out of the pin. Drilling and tapping for a 3/8 24 thread will not weaken the pin much. And the outside end of the pin does nothing anyway. It goes through at least 1 1/2" of casting before it is unsupported.

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Steve (Wi)

01-28-2002 19:23:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Replacing Brake Linings in WD in reply to Tom, 01-28-2002 17:03:28  
Sorry about the verbatum thing Tom...I re-read your post and it is quite obvious you speak from experience. Please accept my apology.

Steve



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Steve (Wi)

01-28-2002 18:34:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Replacing Brake Linings in WD in reply to Tom, 01-28-2002 17:03:28  
No offense but it sounds like your theorizing to me Tom. I've actually HAD a problem with an impossibly stuck pin and drilling/tapping was definitly NOT the answer regardless of bolt size,hardness,or thread spacing. Many hours were wasted trying this. SOMETIMES drilling and tapping works fine as it has on 2 of my WD-45"s. My "new" WD is the one that gave me the fits.

The inside piece sits in a very shallow well and is easily jarred loose and pulled out with a small pair of channel locks.(I had absolutly no problem with the inside of the pin after cutting-the outside had to be drivin thru the casing.)

The repair manuals (from which you quoted verbatum???) dont give all the tricks. The good folks of this site suggested the pin cutting and it worked wonderfully. (Check the archives.) I got new pins from an AGCO dealer-still available as of last summer...I believe the WD45 is still considered a working tractor and uses the same pin as a WD.

Steve

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Tom

01-27-2002 18:48:33




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 Re: Replacing Brake Linings in WD in reply to Crank, 01-27-2002 17:43:41  
Remove the screwed in rod from the brake pedals, revome the springs from the top and take off the 1/2" nut, 3/4"wrench, at the top. Remove the pin at the bottom of the axle housing. It is held in by a 3/8" cap screw and a small plate that fits into a groove in the pin. It may be stuck really bad. It is case hardened. If it is stuck bad gring a little off the end to get through the hard area and CAREFULLY DRILL AND TAP it for a 3/3 fine thread. Get a grade 8 bolt or stuc to screw into it and use a socket that will fit over the pin, and the bolt and socket as a puller. Good luck, it can be a project. The shoes will come out through the tip opening with some fooling around. When installing the brake pedal rod Measure 16 and 5/8" from the front edge of the toggle to the nearest edge of the hole in the rod. Do not adjust the brakes with the rod. To adjust , depress the pedal 2 inches and take up the top nut until linings contact the drum. Release pedal, and adjust screw in back of differential housing until shoes have equal clearance on drum. Jack up tractor one side at a time to check for any drag. Measure the brake pedal rod length through the opening where the rod goes into the housing using a 1/2" tape measure, it isn't hard to get the end of the tape to cantact the brake toggle that the rod screws into. It is really easy to do the job once you get the pins in the bottom out. If they aren't stuck you can do it all in maybe an hour, notmuch more anyway.

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Mack(TX)

01-27-2002 18:39:06




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 Re: Replacing Brake Linings in WD in reply to Crank, 01-27-2002 17:43:41  
You can take the brake shoes out through the inspection cover on top. First remove the pin at the bottom (where the axle housing is bolted on to the differential housing) Next remove the adjusting bolt that adjusts the rear shoe. Remove the 2 springs on each shoe. Remove the pullrod going to the brake pedal then remove the shoes from the top. When installing the brake pullrod should measure 16 5/16 inches from the center line of the hole on the pedal side to the face of the part where it screws in. This provides best pedal leverage. I am restoring a WD and just removed the brakes a few days ago.

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