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First real Tractor , Allis-Chalmers WC

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Lab Rat

12-28-2001 20:41:39

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Just bought my first real tractor to use on our acerage in central Iowa. It is a Allis-Chalmers WC with a PTO driven Loader. I know I will have to get a couple of manuals and was wondering what would be some better manuals.Till I have time to get a good manual I could us any helpful suggestions for up keep and such. A concern I have now is that it was running fine when I got it in 15 Dec. 2001 but now that winter has finnaly hit( 50 vs 15 degress) it is talking a bit to keep it running. Main problem is after I get it started as so as you put a load on the motor it want to or does kill. Also looking for suggestions to convert it to 12 volt. I am looking forward to getting the old girl working right and down the road hope to restore her restored as time allows. Thanks for what ever help you can lend to me, Lab Rat in Panora Iowa

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12-30-2001 16:30:50

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 Re: first real Tractor , Allis-Chalmers WC in reply to Lab Rat, 12-28-2001 20:41:39  
Rat- if your generator was good i would suggest sticking with the 6 volt if all was well. If you have bad generator, battery and wires and dont care if it is original then the 12 volt is a good choice. I would suggest you get a delco alternator 10SI model. This was common on a chevy truck in 1975. Actuall they made 2-3 million 10SI units a year from 1975-1985. You can go to "Auto Zone" and get a rebuild for $35. make sure it has the "internal regulator". This is the simple way to do it, no outside regulator. Dewy will also recommend this, his drawings are for a Delco type system. If you go this way post again and we can help with the details.

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12-30-2001 06:48:07

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 Re: first real Tractor , Allis-Chalmers WC in reply to Lab Rat, 12-28-2001 20:41:39  
Make sure the boot over the shift lever is in very good concition. If it leaks it will let water into the transmission. drain the transmission and see if water comes out of the pto, the low point. Change the oil in the final drives, nobody ever does that and it can get really bad. Get reprints of factory manuals from Kings Books PO Box 86 Radnor, Ohio 43066-0086. They are good and reasonably priced, and shipping and handling is only $2 per order I think. They have owners manuals and repair manuals for WCs. I think there different ones for styled and unstyled. You have a great tractor, take care of it.

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Duey (IA)

12-29-2001 10:28:54

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 Re: first real Tractor , Allis-Chalmers WC in reply to Lab Rat, 12-28-2001 20:41:39  
Lab Rat,
The problem sounds like lean on fuel but don't discount the possibility of burned points contributing to the problem. First determine,like Glenn says, if you have good fuel flow to the carb. Drain plug or valve in bottom of carb. would be first place to start. Also check to see if opening up the main fuel adjustment a half turn will help.(turn counter-clock-wise). I have some wire diagrams for 6 volt to 12 volt conversion on my web page.Duey

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Brian G. NY

12-31-2001 20:09:39

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 Re: Re: first real Tractor , Allis-Chalmers WC in reply to Duey (IA), 12-29-2001 10:28:54  
Hey Duey, I find that if I open up the high speed jet on my WD about a 1/4 turn in real cold weather it reduces "her" tendency to be so "cold-blooded".

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Duey (IA) Yo, Brian....

12-31-2001 22:21:06

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 Re: Re: Re: first real Tractor , Allis-Chalmers WC in reply to Brian G. NY, 12-31-2001 20:09:39  
On a normal running tractor, you are correct. I just figured that an engine already starved for fuel might require a tad bit more adjustment. Anyhooo, I hope he gets it working good again. Duey

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12-28-2001 21:56:41

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 Re: first real Tractor , Allis-Chalmers WC in reply to Lab Rat, 12-28-2001 20:41:39  
Congratulations on your purchase! You can't go wrong by getting the factory manuals. An AGCO dealer should be able to fix you up with the manuals.

Your dying problem could possibly be a fuel problem; you may be getting enough fuel to start and run at idle but not enough to run under load. How is the fuel flow from the gas tank? Has the carb been recently rebuilt?

Why do you want to convert it to 12v?

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Lab Rat

12-29-2001 11:10:59

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 Re: Re: first real Tractor , Allis-Chalmers WC in reply to Glenn(WV), 12-28-2001 21:56:41  
Glen thanks for the information. I talked a bit with the 79 year old guy I got the WC from and he did say that in colder weather I will have to keep her choked just a little to keep her going but it will take some practice to find the "sweet spot" on the choke. As for why 12 volt. I was assumming that I was going to have better luck on a day to day basis with a 12 volt system for lighting and parts to keep the tractor running. How ever I have been wrong before. I know the alternater/generator is not working so I am toying with the idea of mounting a new 12volt alternater and voltage regulator either from a tractor application or a salvaged/used automotive alternator with a new welded mounting. An additional repair I need to do asap is replace wiring on the tractor. It goes with out saying what your luck will soon be with exposed hot wires. But at least I have a good base to start from. Granted you get what you pay for but with an older acreage that needs work and our first kid we just did not have cash on hand for a new JD 4300. Go figure.
Thanks for your help,
Lab Rat

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12-29-2001 19:05:48

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 Re: Re: Re: first real Tractor , Allis-Chalmers WC in reply to Lab Rat, 12-29-2001 11:10:59  
You said it in your last statement. the generator is not working and it dies. it's running out of spark if the battery goes dead. No fire to the points. as far as converting it over to a 12V
system, just put a 8V battery in it fix the generator, and it will spin over like a 12V. Just
a suggestion, I've done it to some old farmalls,
H's and LA Case. Good luck.

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12-31-2001 19:17:58

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 Re: Re: Re: Re: first real Tractor , Allis-Chalmers WC in reply to Randy, 12-29-2001 19:05:48  
Welcome to the AC world. Running problem should not be from weak battery, since the WC uses a magneto ignition- unless it's been converted to a battery ignition, then the post about a weak battery due to defective generator would apply. Also check the air cleaner for partial plugging- engine not getting enough air at higher power requirements. Advice on draining and refilling gear lube was excellent- oftentimes overlooked over the years.

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