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City Boy Transp

12-19-2001 15:52:37

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When I bought my 47 B an extra motor came with it on a skid and is supposed to be a fresh rebuild. I know it has been worked on or at least someone took the time to clean it up and paint it. That was 10 years ago and the motor on the B seems to be running fine. What should I do with the spare to keep it fresh. Any suggestions for cyl treatment like fogging oil or anything else I should do?

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D13

12-21-2001 17:49:53

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Re: Allis B Stored Motor in reply to City Boy Transplant, 12-19-2001 15:52:37

Oil!

Rather than spinning the crank and all, try this.

Pull the plugs and put about 3 tsp of oil in each hole.
Pull the valve cover off.
At the right rear of the engine is the oil pump. It has a pipe sticking up with a T in it, one line goes to the head and one to the oil filter. Take them off the tee (depending upon the attachements you may have to take them off at the filter and head first, remove them from the tee, then reattach them).

With a syringe and a rubber hose (I buy syringes at the local TSC or Quality or in the health care aisle of the grcery store), inject the motor with oil. Feed the filter housing until you hear oil dripping into the pan. Feed the head until you see oil at all the rockers. Drip oil on the top of each valve stem. Then turn the engine over at least twice to coat the cylinders with oil. Then put in the plugs, reinstall the valve cover and lines, and go away for a year or so.

Or sell the motor to someone whose B does not run so well.

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Jim

12-20-2001 16:31:02

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Re: Allis B Stored Motor in reply to City Boy Transplant, 12-19-2001 15:52:37

Several years ago we put a brand new Honda motorcyle on a post pryer to putting up we filled the crankcase and cylinders with oil after 14 years on the post 25' tall we removed the cycle and after draining the oil from the crankcase and pulling the plug on the 3 crank it started up. Just me 2 cents worth. Have a great Holiday Jim

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12-19-2001 19:05:21

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Re: Allis B Stored Motor in reply to City Boy Transplant, 12-19-2001 15:52:37

You might want to prime the engines oiling system. I have never done it to an Allis but on a Ford you can drive the oilpump with an extended drive rod and an electric drill.This gets oil to where it needs to be internally.I would do this before I rolled it over so the oil will distribute evenly. Fogging the cylinders is a good idea to. I hope this can be done to an Allis. Guys? Actually if I had an engine that was in unknown condition I would tear it down and check it out before I installed it just so I didn't have to do all the labor over again!

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Tom

12-19-2001 18:40:50

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Re: Allis B Stored Motor in reply to City Boy Transplant, 12-19-2001 15:52:37

turn the engine over a few times, after putting a little oil in each cylinder, just to keep it loose.If youcould put it on its side and pour oil in the intake and exhaust manifold it would get to the valves better. After this pour more oil in each cylinder. Store it in a constant temperature area, dry is better. Turn it once in a while if only a few degrees to keep it from sticking. Oil, Oil, Oil, wil keep the inside from rusting. Maybe fill the crankcase up to level with the crankshaft and turn it over to coat the crank and rods with oil too. Oil won't hurt it and condensation will. Before you try to run it crank it over with the plugs out and drain out any extra oil in the crankcase. Tipping it on its side where the cam and lifters are is a good idea too, oil them up. After saying all this, I have a slant 6 in my basement that I have done abut half of all this too.

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steve

12-19-2001 19:19:15

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Re: Re: Allis B Stored Motor in reply to Tom, 12-19-2001 18:40:50

The guys both have good ideas. I think first i would take off the pan and valave cover and do a little internal visual inspection. If it was just cleaned and painted outside, then there is not much need in going overboard cause you will probably rebuild before using someday. If it looks all clean and new lock wires on the crank and clean suction screen and no deposits in the head by the valves and clean valve stems and springs, well then i would believe it was rebuilt and try to take care of it as Tom mentioned. turning the crank over several revolutions each month is a good idea. A little oil in the cylinders and crank case would be good. With valve cover off you can always pour a little on top and let it run down also. Cheap insurance and only cost two gaskets.

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