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Mark from MN

11-11-2001 20:18:00




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Ok, now that the tractor runs great on to the next problem. I have a 3-point conversion like the one made by C&D. I have had no trouble using my rear blade or bushhog but I just purchased and 75" snow thrower and once mounted the driveshaft is too long. It looks as if the driveshaft would have to be about 12" shorter to provide enough clearance for coupling and length when the shaft is level (implement raised slightly). I'm assuming the 3-point is not mounted far enough back on the drawbar. currently the 3-point lift arm shackles are straight down from the tractors lift arms. If this is not the correct way to mount the conversion what is? How far out should the 3-point lift arms stick out past the pto shaft? Any help would be greatly appretiated. It's unseasonably warm right now but snow could be just around the corner (I'm in Minnesota after all).

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Mark from MN

11-13-2001 20:11:18




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 Re: wd 3-point problem in reply to Mark from MN, 11-11-2001 20:18:00  
I was lucky enough to find another wd with a 3-point mounted and take measurements. Discovered mine was mounted 6 inches too far back. I repositioned the 3-point and cut 6 inches from the driveshaft. Everything seems to hook up and work fine now. Thanks again for everbody's input.



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Bryan Smith

11-12-2001 11:51:47




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 Re: wd 3-point problem in reply to Mark from MN, 11-11-2001 20:18:00  
You may find either your implement was shipped with the wrong length pto shaft (which happens every once in a while since the pto shafts are usually purchased from another company for the equipment) or that your 3ph setup has the implement too close to the tractor's pto shaft. If it's the wrong shaft the company will usually trade you even.

Oddly enough the ASAE Standards don't appear to have this particular dimension covered. ASAE standard S217.11 seems to indicate the 3ph will be slightly further out than the drawbar - something we hope for since the drawbar stays on the tractor nowadays ...! ASAE Standard S482 notes for a drawbar:

For a "standard" drawbar length the center of the drawbar hole should be 350 mm plus or minus 10 mm (13.77 inches plus or minus 0.4 inches) from the end of a tractor's 540 rpm output pto shaft and 200 to 300 mm (7.8 to 11.8 inches) in vertical distance between the drawbar and the pto shaft.

Other drawbar lengths include a "shortened" drawbar position with the hole center 250 mm (9.8 inches) from the pto shaft end and a "lengthened" drawbar position with the hole 500 mm (19.6 inches) from the pto shaft end (most newer tractors have 2 or 3 drawbar postions).

Check the snowblower's manual - it should give some guidance about this dimension.

A good thing to try would be to find a newer tractor and measure the distance from the end of the pto shaft to the center of the 3ph arm hole.

(note - ASAE is the American Society of Agricultural Engineers with a website located at Link )

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acd17toy

11-11-2001 20:25:27




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 Re: wd 3-point problem in reply to Mark from MN, 11-11-2001 20:18:00  
Mark if you plan on using the blower only on the WD just shorten both ends of the pto shaft on the blower, by cutting off what you think it will take to allow the shaft enough room to slide back and forth.



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