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Mark from MN

06-24-2001 21:58:44




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I have a WD I plan to use for snow removal this winter. I plan on using a 3-point mounted snow thrower. The left rear rim is completely rusted out around the valve stem. I've heard all the debates about CaCl and the alternatives. I would like to know what the weight differences between CaCl, washer fluid and antifreeze are. The rear tires are 13.6x28. How much fluid do the tubes hold, etc. Any advise-input would be greatly appreciated. This site and all your guys help so far have been a godsend. Thanks in advance.

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mike jenezon

06-26-2001 17:12:41




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 Re: CaCl of not in reply to Mark from MN, 06-24-2001 21:58:44  
from what i have seen either cacl(not that bad) or propylene glycol(rv antifreeze) never ethelene glycol(auto antifreeze) just my opinion. mike



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Tom

06-26-2001 18:54:45




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 Re: Re: CaCl of not in reply to mike jenezon, 06-26-2001 17:12:41  
Used auto antifreeze works fine. Have had it in the rears on a AC C for 12 to 15 years now. Only problem is collecting enough from your friends.



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mike jenezon

06-26-2001 21:29:14




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 Re: Re: Re: CaCl of not in reply to Tom, 06-26-2001 18:54:45  
yeh it works good but it is toxic to animals and in most places considerd hazardous matarial in the case of a spill ie ruptured tire . mike



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John

06-25-2001 22:04:35




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 Re: CaCl of not in reply to Mark from MN, 06-24-2001 21:58:44  
Go with CaCl. If one of those tires filled with ethylene gycol was to be torned open you will find out that you could replace a lot of rims for what you will pay for that hazardous waste clean up.



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Dave Grubb

06-25-2001 08:28:22




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 Re: CaCl of not in reply to Mark from MN, 06-24-2001 21:58:44  
My choice would be to use water/antifreeze solution and add the cast iron wheel weights to get the ballasted weight you want. The CaCl is bad news.



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Glenn(WV)

06-25-2001 07:19:24




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 Re: CaCl of not in reply to Mark from MN, 06-24-2001 21:58:44  
I'd go with the antifreeze. I don't know how much it would increase the weight, but it won't eat your rims up if you spring a leak. Just my thoughts . . .



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Brian G. NY

06-25-2001 05:41:45




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 Re: CaCl of not in reply to Mark from MN, 06-24-2001 21:58:44  
I don't know what anti-freeze weighs, but a gal. of water weighs aprox. 8.38 lbs. By dissolving 2 lbs. of CaCl per gal. you raise the total weight of the liquid to approx. 10.38 lbs. per gal. According to what I've read, 2 lbs. per gal. will protect from freezing to -28 degrees. A 13X28 tire will hold approx. 42 gals. So.....plain water would add about 352 lbs to each wheel. The CaCl would add another 84 lbs per wheel. If you were using a large bucket to move snow (as I do), the CaCl is a big help. The extra weight would be very helpful for straight snow plowing as well. It would seem to me, with a rear mounted snowblower, you may have all the weight you need. A front mounted blower would be another story.

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paul

06-26-2001 07:17:25




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 Re: Re: CaCl of not in reply to Brian G. NY, 06-25-2001 05:41:45  
I believe I just read that the alcohols weigh 8.02 lbs per gallon.

CaCl offers better weight, cheaper, my tire coop doesn't get upset with me, offers better freeze protection (has gotten to 36 below in my lifetime), and is less toxic to pets & enviornment in case of a spill. Attention to minor leaks takes care of any rust problem. Just my opinions. :)

--->Paul



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duane

06-25-2001 19:23:40




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 Re: Re: CaCl of not in reply to Brian G. NY, 06-25-2001 05:41:45  
You should just leave the tires dry because the weight of the snow-blower would give you the added traction.



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Alvin

06-25-2001 19:58:37




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 Re: Re: Re: CaCl of not in reply to duane, 06-25-2001 19:23:40  
Remenber, when you set the snow blower down on its skid shoes you have no traction weight on tractor. I still have a tractor 50 years old with origional rims and CaCI in. Take care of the tires and tubes and you got no worries, don't care whar anybody says, also have one 40 years old, used every day with origional rims and the same stuff..Have a good day.....



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Robert in W. Mi.

06-28-2001 13:39:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: CaCl of not in reply to Alvin, 06-25-2001 19:58:37  
You are exactly right!!! It always amazes me that a lot of guys just can't seem to figure out that cal. is NOT the problem!! It's a people problem!!! If you get a leak, FIX IT!! Wash the rim with soap and water inside and out, and you won't ever have any rim problems!! Several of my tractors have cal. in the tires with out problems!! As to the origional posters question. You didn't mention tire chains. You are going to use them, aren't you??? A good set of tire chains is a must in my opinion. Robert

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