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Tractor pulling with a B

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Kevin

06-10-2001 18:18:06




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I pull in 2700lb class I have 13.6x24 tires. I spin out in frist gear but do not have the power to go to 2nd gear. what can I do to get the horse power for 2nd gear? I know I may be on the wroung forum but all you see on the tractor pulling forum are jd and farmall. I do have head that I had bigger valves in but I do not have in on the tractor right know.




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Dave in Mo

06-10-2001 19:58:38




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 Re: tractor pulling with a B in reply to Kevin, 06-10-2001 18:18:06  
Kevin, the pulls I'v been in will only allow you to pull in 1st gear. Check the rules first. On a related note, however, the University of Nebraska Test book I have lists the max drawbar horsepower for all tractors. It seems for all makes, the max horsepower is developed in 2nd or 3rd gear. None are shown in 1st. So check your tire pressure. I would think something in the 7-10 pound range would be right.

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Dick L

06-10-2001 19:40:53




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 Re: tractor pulling with a B in reply to Kevin, 06-10-2001 18:18:06  
I pulled a B Allis in the 2500# class Sat. and took first. I have a new set of BFG 9.5 X 24. I pulled in first gear and had the longest pull by eight feet. I would guess you have to much tire surface on the ground for your tractor weight.

I also took first with my C Allis in the 3000 # class and had the longest pull by over 10 feet.
I have a set of 11.5 X 24 Armstrong. I also pulled in first gear.

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kevin

06-11-2001 09:41:42




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 Re: Re: tractor pulling with a B in reply to Dick L, 06-10-2001 19:40:53  
we pull two classes antique and classic. antique is frist gear and classic is 1 or 2 gear. I place 2nd or 3rd each time the problem is the tractor I'm trying to out pull has 38's on the rear of a B allis chalmers. so the only way I know to out pull it is to increase the ground speed. That's 38's or 2nd gear I do not have the horse power for 2nd or the 38's at this time. he is also using a d10 or12 engine but also would like to out pull him with stock B block maybe not the insides but look stock.

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Nick (IN)

06-11-2001 16:28:06




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 Re: Re: Re: tractor pulling with a B in reply to kevin, 06-11-2001 09:41:42  

Hey Dick L., where did you pull this last weekend?, do you know of any pulls this weekend, I think I'm in your neck of the woods. Nick



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Dick L

06-11-2001 20:02:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: tractor pulling with a B in reply to Nick (IN), 06-11-2001 16:28:06  
Defiance Ohio, at Auglaize Village.
The next one there is Oct.6th

I don't have one on my list for this coming weekend. I called around some today and didn't find any thing. The next one on my list close to me would be New Haven, IN July 4th and the Van Wert, Ohio july 6th and 7th.
Should be some in the edge of Michigan but I have not found any one with dates.



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Nick(OH)

06-11-2001 20:10:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: tractor pulling with a B in reply to Dick L, 06-11-2001 20:02:05  

Hey Dick, Did you hear about pulls in the Geneva/Bryant or Bluffton areas? A friend mentioned them but I didn't get any firm information. Nick #2



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Dick L A line up

06-11-2001 20:27:38




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: tractor pulling with a B in reply to Nick(OH), 06-11-2001 20:10:36  
I put some of my tractors in a line yesterday.
Grass is not brown, something about this mornings light.



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Nick(OH)

06-11-2001 20:42:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: tractor pulling with a B in reply to Dick L A line up, 06-11-2001 20:27:38  

I have some pictures from my first pull on Saturday in Mendon. It wasn't a good start for the year..



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Dick L

06-11-2001 20:21:42




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: tractor pulling with a B in reply to Nick(OH), 06-11-2001 20:10:36  
I have one on my list that said Geneva, but I didn't know where it was and I didn't find it on my map except in the extreme North East of Ohio



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Dick L

06-11-2001 10:12:30




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 Re: Re: Re: tractor pulling with a B in reply to kevin, 06-11-2001 09:41:42  
In the club pulls I pull in they will only let us go up one tire size.

The other can be done. You will have .020 clearance between the block and crank with a 4" stroke. You will have to grind and reshape the cast in web supports inside the block. You can have the block bored out to take the larger sleeves. Three problems I can think of at the moment, the first one money, the second is the D series pistons are crater type and the B pistons are flat, the third problem is sealing the sleeves. The orings at the bottom of the sleeves in the B are on the out side of the sleeve and the orings in the D series are in the block. That can be overcome but can you spell MORE MONEY

I don't see how a wide tall tire will get that much more traction at that light of a weight class, might work, I just can't see how it would work. I could see it if you could spin the tires at 30 MPH or so.

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kevin

06-12-2001 09:42:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: tractor pulling with a B in reply to Dick L, 06-11-2001 10:12:30  
If the club here would do that I would not have is problem.

The 38's do make that much more traction (about 10 or more feet) but I'm not sure that its the traction but the ground speed. what do you think a d10 or12 crank with 3 7/16 pistons I know that I would have to do something to the pistons for the extra stroke or would it not be worth the trouble.

I have pull here this weekend if I do ok in antique I may try 2nd gear to see what I have under the hood.

THANKS

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Dick L

06-12-2001 11:08:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: tractor pulling with a B in reply to kevin, 06-12-2001 09:42:46  
I think its a great idea. How much money you got to spend? You will be able to buy a lot of pop and icecream with the money it takes to get all the parts to fit.

When You get it all done I would like to challenge you to a pull with my little old C with the 11.2 X 24's. I won't need all that extra power to turn my tires. This would be a for fun challenge where winners and loosers go home as new freinds.

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kevin

06-12-2001 14:08:09




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: tractor pulling with a B in reply to Dick L, 06-12-2001 11:08:50  
Sounds like fun Next time your in lincolnton (north carolina) let me know and we can pull for fun or pop and icecream.



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