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WD 3-point hydraulics

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Mark from MN

05-23-2001 16:37:30




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Here we go again folks, yet another hydraulic problem...or should I say still a problem. Any time the tractor is running I have hydraulic pressure pushing the lift arms up regardless were the control lever is. The hold valve is rebuilt and functioning to the best of my knowlege, I've loosened the packing gland nuts and retightened hand tight, I've checked for restrictions(gunk) in the lines etc, all seem to be ok. I seem to be missing the drawbar ling rod (attaches near drawbar spring and goes to linkage/lever that has the draft regulating lockout screw on it). If I put the main control lever in the down position and push the draft regulating lockout lever forward (against spring pressure?), the lift arms will go down even with the tractor running but as soon as a let go the arms go right up again. I can shut the tractor off and lower the arms this way, put the main control to down position and start the tractor up again and arms will go up. I'm not sure how this system is supposed to function. I want to use the 3-point for a brush cutter and a snow thrower. I have ordered the operators and repair manuals but the have not arrived yet besides I never did learn very well by just reading something. Any help would
be greatly appreciated.

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David T. (MO)

05-24-2001 06:57:01




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 Re: WD 3-point hydraulics in reply to Mark from MN, 05-23-2001 16:37:30  
Everything on your tractor is working just like it should, Mark. The problem is that you don't have the pump set up to do the things you want it to do and the missing drag link is what is causing the pump to mis-behave. (It thinks you're pulling something *really* heavy so it is responding as it is suppose to under that condition by lifting the load thereby "boosting" the traction.)

Since you don't want traction boost, you don't need that drag link to the pump. The most commonly used set up for me is the hold position setting and from the discription of the implements you intend to use, this is the pump setting you'll want too. You should have a decal on the battery box showing the various setups for the pump. In any case here is what you need to do.

That draft regulating lockout lever that you pushed forward should have a knurled adjustment bolt in it. (This is adjustment "A" on the decal.) Push the lever forward again and turn this bolt all the way into the body detent (there should be a detent in the pump body that the point of the bolt will mate to) locking the plate into position. Since you didn't mention anything about this adjustment bolt, it may be missing. Look for the threaded hole on the lever and find the detent on the pump body (may have to dig it out from under some caked dirt). Next, take any bolt that will fit and grind the end to a slight point to fit the body detent. This is your main problem. Get the pump set up so it ignores the drawbar and it will behave itself.

The rest of the hold postion settings are as follows. A second knurled bolt is on top of the pump on the side linkages. This is the hold position adjustment. Turn it so that it locks the two plates together, allowing them to move as one. The third knurled bolt is also on top but on the front of the pump. This controls the delay lift. Turn it all the way out until it hits its stop. The last knurled bolt is on the front of the pump about half way down. It controls the rate of lift. Turning it all the way out gives you fast lift. All the way in is slow lift.

Good luck.

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Mark from MN

05-24-2001 20:09:14




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 Re: Re: WD 3-point hydraulics in reply to David T. (MO), 05-24-2001 06:57:01  
Thanks for all your help Dave. I purchased the tractor last fall and keep it at the propery I purchased wich is 20 miles away from my current home. I'm in the process of building a new house at the property but I haven't had much time to go out there after work to tinker with the AC. The addition of our first born child seems to be taking up quite a bit of my time(but it's worth it). The battery box was nonexistent when the tractor was bought. I went out after work and did what you said. Yea!!!! It works great!!!! I was coming to that conclusion myself but needed some reasurrance before taking time away from family to go tinker with the tractor. The manuals were waiting for me when I got home so hopefully I won't have to waste youre guys knowledge on simple questions. Now only if I could keep the #1 spark plug from oil fouling every couple of minutes.....
Thanks again for letting me pick your brain.

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KURT

05-24-2001 02:51:14




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 Re: WD 3-point hydraulics in reply to Mark from MN, 05-23-2001 16:37:30  
It sounds like you have a two postion valve instead of a three. two postion would be up and down and a three postion would be up down and a center postion of hold or a open center. I would need more information before being sure.



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David T. (MO)

05-24-2001 07:05:48




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 Re: Re: WD 3-point hydraulics in reply to KURT, 05-24-2001 02:51:14  
Sorry Kurt, but the WDs don't use flow through control valves. All controls are buried in the pump itself and are actuated indirectly by rod links to the pump. Very different from modern hydraulic systems.



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