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Stuck engine on WD

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Don E. Foster

03-30-2001 14:06:19




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I have had Marvel oil standing in the cylinders for a week and no give. What next? Water got into cylinder through muffler. They really don't look all that bad once I got the crud out. Where do I go from here, take the rods loose? I'll be gone until the 18th.




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new2orange

04-20-2001 00:27:24




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 Re: Stuck engine on WD in reply to Don E. Foster, 03-30-2001 14:06:19  
The way I have gotten stuck sleeve/pistons out in the past is a little worky, but it has always worked!!

Yank the pan off, remove the connecting rod caps so the rods are loose (Please mark em!!) and reattach the front motor mount/bar with pan off. Yank the head off. Find a railroad tie, or something very solid that will not flex that is wide 6-8", and at least 4' long.

Next, run a couple chains down from the framerails one on each side, under your 4' long rairoad tie and back up so the railroad tie is resting on the ground, but just by a little bit, it should be almost able to swing back and forth.

place a common bottle jack on top of the railroad tie, use something fairly stout that will not split as a ram, slowly jack the ram up to the bottom of the sleeve, which is kind of just hanging down by about an inch or so from the blocks bottom water jacket.

Slowly add pressure with the jack, the sleeve will pop out of the top of the block allowing you to pull the piston/sleeve/con rod combo out and have it pressed out. The chains/railroad tie setup keeps the jack from simply sinking and allows you to use more than just the tractors weight to shove the sleeve out. keeping the railroad tie on the ground keeps the whole deal from squishing out at an angle. Disconnecting all the connecting rods first usually allows you to turn the crank around, if you wanna keep it in the block, and access the sleeve bottoms.

This has worked every time, I have never broken or cracked a block yet, and as long as you go slow, and be safe, (strong chains etc) it is a safe one man job.\

Good luck

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Dave (Florida)

04-03-2001 15:38:35




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 Re: Stuck engine on WD in reply to Don E. Foster, 03-30-2001 14:06:19  
I'd put a little kerosine or diesel in there with the mystery oil for a few days. Hard to say what is really stuck, could be valves stuck too. Myself, I would pull the head and the pan and check it all out but then maybe just a pull will save the time.

dave



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steve

03-30-2001 16:59:13




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 Re: Stuck engine on WD in reply to Don E. Foster, 03-30-2001 14:06:19  
I say let it set a couple more weeks. How do you try to turn over, bar on crank shaft? Might want to put in gear and rock tractor forward and rearward. Some times a little rocking helps. Pulling at 1 MPH and bumping cluth also helps. Dont over do it on the clutch. Ths shock load from clutch may be better than straight pull from a breaker bar on crank.



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gr

04-05-2001 16:42:28




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 Re: Re: Stuck engine on WD in reply to steve, 03-30-2001 16:59:13  
As crude as it may seem, I have experienced much good luck "unsticking" old cletrac engines by finding a piece of hardwood dowelling, (or an old piece of round firewood or fencepost) setting this piece of wood endwise on top of piston, (cylinder head off) and giving it a good crisp whack with a 4 pound hammer. (This only works on engines stuck on pistons, rods, or mains) Don't get too carried away, check progress occasionally to see if parts are free. I wouldn't suggest this if it hadn't worked for me on many occasions. Maybe I'm blessed with good luck with antiques.

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