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Is This a CA or a C?

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Loren

03-11-2001 10:55:47




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We have just bought our first tractor, and were told it's a CA, but have no idea what year it is or what model it is for sure. It had been repainted, and all original numbers, etc. were painted right over. The engine serial number is CE192929 PA, the tractor serial number is CA 4409, and the number on the right side of the engine block is 40331. Can anyone help me? Thanks!




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alan

03-12-2001 04:37:59




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 Re: Is This a CA or a C? in reply to Loren , 03-11-2001 10:55:47  
the owners manual on my 51 ca refers to the hand clutch as an option, although i've never seen one without it.



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steve

03-11-2001 11:12:22




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 Re: Is This a CA or a C? in reply to Loren , 03-11-2001 10:55:47  
the "CA 4400" is stamped in the case in front of the transmission shift lever?? This is a 1951 CA. Does it have a 4 speed transmission. I believe most if not all CA had this.



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Loren

03-11-2001 11:22:06




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 Re: Re: Is This a CA or a C? in reply to steve, 03-11-2001 11:12:22  
The CA 4409 is stamped on the left side of the shifting lever, and it is a 4-speed. Thanks for your help Steve!



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JR

03-11-2001 17:47:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Is This a CA or a C? in reply to Loren, 03-11-2001 11:22:06  
You know it's already a CA but one way too tell is that the CA has a sort of a "Hand-Clutch" on the right next to the seat that basically gives you independant PTO so you can stop the tractor and still keep the PTO going. The CA also has a pan-type seat while the C and B have a bench seat. But, somebody may have switched seats. I believe the CA had bigger tires, 11.4x24s I think. Sure makes a better first tractor than a Ford N-series if you ask me. The N-series have 3 point hitches but in all other respects I believe the CA is a superior tractor. They are about the same horsepower as a 8N but the CA weighs about 700 lbs more. The Fords were always too light.

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Larry

03-11-2001 18:31:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Is This a CA or a C? in reply to JR, 03-11-2001 17:47:24  
Not all CA's come with a hand clutch,I have 1952 CA without one and did not come with one!!



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Skeptic

03-11-2001 18:46:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is This a CA or a C? in reply to Larry, 03-11-2001 18:31:14  
The dry hand clutch was standard on all CA tractors. That was one of the improvments in the CA over the C. Please post pictures of the right rear axle housing with NO hole for the hand clutch, along with the platform with NO hole cut for the hand clutch. If your right axle TRULY has no hole for the hand clutch, then it was probably swapped from a C....



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Nick

03-11-2001 20:55:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is This a CA or a C? in reply to Skeptic, 03-11-2001 18:46:26  

The hand clutch must have been an option at least in 1951. I have a Feb. 1951 ad for the CA that says the two-clutch power control is optional. The tractor in the ad doesn't look like it has a hand clutch.



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Tom Davison

03-12-2001 09:38:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is This a CA or a C? in reply to Nick, 03-11-2001 20:55:44  
The CA was offered with and without the hand clutch. In the ITT repair manual, it shows the right hand pinion shaft to the final drive as a long shaft for tractors without clutch and a short shaft for the tractors with the hand clutch.



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