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Sickle Blade mower question

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Dave K.

02-27-2001 18:28:59




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There is another message on the board asking about how to sharpen a sickle blade. From reading it it sounds like sickle blade mowers are no longer used?? I draw this conclusion from the posts saying "there used to be sharpening stones" etc. Now I am wondering what modern farmers mow with?? In the 50's, when I last farmed, we all ad the special grinding wheels to do the sickle bars with.

Dave




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steve reardon

10-04-2001 11:58:35




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 Re: Sickle Blade mower question in reply to Dave K., 02-27-2001 18:28:59  
I am looking for a sickle bar for a 755 john deere tractor.

Looking for a four(4) footer.



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Dave K.

03-01-2001 18:49:14




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 Re: Sickle Blade mower question in reply to Dave K., 02-27-2001 18:28:59  
Thanks to all you guys who took the time to explain. Not sure what a haybine is but I get the general idea. We never conditioned hay in the late 40's and 50's when I farmed. We cut with a sickelbar mower (New Idea) on the WD, raked it with an Allis Chalmers side rake, baled it with a rotobaler. Never needed to condition it. I know farming has changed a lot but we did get it done (2 of us) and milked 30 Holsteins, fed 200 chickens, about a dozen heifers at any given time, sold potatoes, and fed all our stock with home grown feed. Filled the silo with corn cut with a binder, loaded and hauled to the silo and chopped on a chopper/blower belted to the WD. All on 150 tillable acres, one WD and one JD model H. Well we did have an allcrop and other implements of course. Never did need one of them 900 horsepower, air conditioned, heated tractors! Paid like $900 new for the WD, about $350 for the H (used). Traded the WD for a WD-45 in the 50's.

dave

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P. Craig

07-14-2003 00:42:34




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 Re: Re: Sickle Blade mower question in reply to Dave K., 03-01-2001 18:49:14  
I am looking for a walk behind sickelbar mower (about 36"), or one that could be adapted to a 16h Ford lawn and garden tractor.



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Gary

03-02-2001 05:33:07




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 Re: Re: Sickle Blade mower question in reply to Dave K., 03-01-2001 18:49:14  
The way you did it is still the way to go I feel,
farmers have been sold a bill of goods by equipment companies and some have gone hook line
and sinker for it.Needing a piece of equipment means 1]I will make you more money than the piece
you currently use 2]You can afford it in the 1st
place.My dad who will be 80 April 11th still cuts
hay with an AC mower,we use a JD rake we bought
used in 1969 and bale with a New Holland 853 baler
behind a AC 180 I bought used in 1980 for $2100.
Sure we have some repairs,but he always carries
a grease gun and uses it liberally.We have a bunch
old Olivers,ACs and Cockshutts we use for various
tasks so if one breaks down its no big deal we just fire up another.We don't have half as much
invested in the 10 or so tractors that we use
regularly as a new ONE tractor would cost.I just
bush hogged about 15 acres yesterday with our old
Oliver 77 we got used in the late 60s for next to
nothing.You don't have to spend much to farm,and if you do spend much these days you will loose money.

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Johnny

03-01-2001 18:30:30




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 Re: Sickle Blade mower question in reply to Dave K., 02-27-2001 18:28:59  
Dave, I bought a brand new 9' New Idea sickle mower last season, they are still available and many parts in this part of the country, (N.E. TX) In a clean hay meadow they do a better job of cutting than any disc mower that I have ever seen, however if you are custom baling for others or have fields that have a little trash grass in them the disc mowers perform far superior to a sickle, With a sickle you also don't need a 100 horsepower or a cab,or hydraulics and can use a smaller tractor. There is still a lot of hay cut in East Texas using sickle mowers. We sharpen with a 4" electric grinder in a pinch, but this ruins the temper on the sickle section, usually get a new bar, about $75.00 or replace the sections. Johnny

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john2510

02-28-2001 19:05:22




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 Re: Sickle Blade mower question in reply to Dave K., 02-27-2001 18:28:59  
we have 3 haybines and one dick mower and a sickle mower we use yearly to mow hay with,the haybines are 10 times better then a sickle barmower for getting the hay up faster the sickle mower is a 501 ford we use to cut 20 acers with as i mentioned earlier we have 3 haybines 2 ih's and an allis 390 mower conditioner the diskmower is also a jd. sorry to be so long winded just my 2 cents.



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Logan

03-01-2001 18:16:05




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 Re: Re: Sickle Blade mower question in reply to john2510, 02-28-2001 19:05:22  
I really need a place where i can find a rear blade for a Allis Chalmer WD-45! somebody please help and e-mail me if you find anything!!!



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Farmer-Gene

02-28-2001 08:58:43




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 Re: Sickle Blade mower question in reply to Dave K., 02-27-2001 18:28:59  
you can still buy new equip. with sickles, to sharpen them just pull the sickle out and use a small disc grinder, altho its easier just to replace a section or the the whole sickle, new sickles are self sharpening and by the time they need sharpening they're usually wore out. Antique dealers are buying up all those old sharpening stones.



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Stetson K. Hall

07-18-2001 14:00:36




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 Re: Re: Sickle Blade mower question in reply to Farmer-Gene, 02-28-2001 08:58:43  
Does anyone know how much an old cutting cradle would be worth? Please e-mail me if you do.



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Aaron

02-27-2001 19:36:50




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 Re: Sickle Blade mower question in reply to Dave K., 02-27-2001 18:28:59  
Modern haying equipment looks a lot like a "bush hog". They use several smaller spinning blade assemblies on one bar, usually gear driven. These do a much better job cutting and are not affected by gopher mounds and the like. The old roller conditioner or a flail like devise is used behind the cutter to condition the plants. Not too many sickles on anything NEW. Granted, sickles are still used on all the older equipment still running.
Aaron

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Paul from Michigan

02-27-2001 19:23:41




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 Re: Sickle Blade mower question in reply to Dave K., 02-27-2001 18:28:59  
Around here most guys use a haybine to cut and condition hay. They use a sickle to do the cutting, just like an old mowing machine. Of course the reel and crusher rolls have been addd to do the crimping or conditioning to make the hay dry quicker. Some other popular types are flail or disc mowers that condition or actually beat the heck out of the hay to allow faster drying. Either type works about the same. The flail type are simpler, but require more power to run. Paul

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Bandit'

02-27-2001 19:20:00




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 Re: Sickle Blade mower question in reply to Dave K., 02-27-2001 18:28:59  
Well i don't know about anyone else but we still use a cutter bar to make hay. I think in the mower/conditioners they use small rotary like blades i think on some. Others though i have seen a blade like a cutterbar, mounted to cut with. We just use a grinder on a drill to sharpen ours. Thats all i know~



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Glenn

02-28-2001 05:24:35




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 Re: Re: Sickle Blade mower question in reply to Bandit', 02-27-2001 19:20:00  
One of my uncles still uses a rear-mounted sickle-bar cutter for the hay. He really seems to like it. It's mounted on a Ford 3600.



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Gary

02-28-2001 04:49:43




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 Re: Re: Sickle Blade mower question in reply to Bandit', 02-27-2001 19:20:00  
We use a AC 82S mower on a AC D19 and have a 82T
for a backup,I've used alot of sickle bar mowers,
but these I feel are the best.We can run in 3rd
high range with the D19.I don't feel the expense
of a haybine is worth what I'd get out of it.As
far as the sharpening the sections,I feel its a waste of time new sections are the way to go.



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