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Tale of two Chalmers...

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Bama Binder

10-10-2000 05:52:22




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I am new to Allis Chalmers and am looking at two different tractors.

First is a 1952 B. It runs and comes with a belly plow and disk. It is a bit rusty and needs paint, but the tires are good and it is complete. The owner wants $650. How is the price on this one???

The hydraulics work but leak down...I can re-build hydraulic cylinders, but what type of pump does this use and is it pretty bullet proof or is it trouble? Other than the drawbar, is there any hitching system (ie 3pt, 2pt/1pt IH or other proprietary??)

Second is a 1963 D15 Series II. Runs and is fair condition. Needs some minor repairs to charging system and some other things. Owner has not stated a price but says he will take a price the would "make my head spin". I assume that he means LOW enough, not HIGH enough!! What would a really good (but still reasonable) price be for me to offer??

I don't want to loose money on either one, but then somehow I always do...Thanks for helping a Chalmers Newbie

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Dave in Mo

10-16-2000 09:16:42




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 Re: Tale of two Chalmers... in reply to Bama Binder, 10-10-2000 05:52:22  
That's a good price on the Model 'B'. We paid $500 for ours in a lot worse shape. In fact, just used it yesterday to run our sheller and hammermills. Worked great!



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Phil Auten (TX)

10-10-2000 09:37:53




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 Re: Tale of two Chalmers... in reply to Bama Binder, 10-10-2000 05:52:22  
BB,
Buy them both! That's a pretty good price on a running B with implements. The hydraulic pump can be easily rebuilt with a kit from AGCO for less than $50. The D-15 is in the HP range of the Farmall M in a more compact, usable tractor. $2,500 and up is what it sounds like to me. Some go for over $4,500 for a prime example. The post '60 D-15 has the larger, more powerful engine. I wish it was closer to me. :o)

Phil

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Steve W

10-10-2000 06:00:33




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 Re: Tale of two Chalmers... in reply to Bama Binder, 10-10-2000 05:52:22  
I don't know enough about D15's, but a B has limited use, a D15 is a lot more tractor. Adding a 3-point hitch to a B is not a great solution, because the hydraulic pump and cylinder are of limited size, so the lift capacity will be low.

It all depends on what you are gonna use it for. For a mowing machine, a B with a belly mower is great....nice and light an manueverable. For Raking, it is good a swell. But for much else, unless you have all the original AC implements, it is of limited value.

The D15 is a substatial tractor, but a lot heavier....this is good for farming, bad for yuppie landowners....

Good Luck Steve

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LB

10-10-2000 17:39:22




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 Re: Re: Tale of two Chalmers... in reply to Steve W, 10-10-2000 06:00:33  
I hear ya on the yuppie land owners. They all seem to want a Ford 8n, then in a few years the ford is gone and they have a new john deere,new holland or kubota compact tractor that cost more than my house.



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Steve W

10-11-2000 06:12:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Tale of two Chalmers... in reply to LB, 10-10-2000 17:39:22  
I must admit....I had a B but i now have a 1942 Ford 2N. and I am a yuppie farmer....I want to be a farmer, but there is no money or future in it, so I work in the computer industry during the day, and have a few horses and cows at my 'yuppie farm".....

I'm not embarrassed to say it, it is better than being a yuppie without a farm...lol.

The problem with N's is that although they are great tractors, they are all 50 or 60 years old now, and most are whipped. And your average yuppie doesn't know enough to keep them running, or how to make a proper repair.

how many guys convert there tractors to 12V instead of fixing the real problem? see my point?

But you gotta love this old equipment. My next purchase will be a CA, D10 or D12.....even though I like my Ford, I think my blood has an Orange tint to it.

take Care
Steve

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Scott

10-14-2000 16:37:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Tale of two Chalmers... in reply to Steve W, 10-11-2000 06:12:59  
:) Standing up and being counted among the "yuppies" with a farm! My '41 B doesn't seem to mind that I'm a yuppie either!

Regarding the limited ability of a "B" I agree. Mowing and some light ground work is about all I would attempt but, then again, that's about all I need at this point. The D-15... I can't help there.



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William Bill Aycock

10-15-2000 16:56:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tale of two Chalmers... in reply to Scott, 10-14-2000 16:37:40  
I just bought a 1940 B for $750 and it needs a lot of work. Even so, I don't think that I was "had". My purpose in life is not to be a yuppie farmer. Having grown up on a cotton farm in Mississippi, owning a tractor (useful or not) is part of my idea of manhood.



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