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WC prototype tractor??

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Dennis Schmidke

09-12-2000 10:34:19




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I bought an old Allis-Chalmers WC tractor at an auction for $100 intending to use it for antique tractor pulling. It had a different engine in it than normal...it's a flat head engine that I assume somebody just dropped in it when the original died. They had to cut a piece out of the frame to get it to fit. I have a WC engine to replace it with anyway. Anyway, I was looking at it side by side with my brother's WC and noticed several differences and was wondering if anybody knew what this tractor was. First of all, it does not say Allis-Chalmers across the top of the radiator. Like I said, it has the flat head engine in it...that tag says it's a Waukesha. The frames have a lot fewer holes drilled in it than the other tractor, there is a kill switch mounted on the foot rest that you turn to shut it off, the shifting lever is straight and not curved like the other WC, and the throttle control is different. Thanks in advance for any replies. I'm going to start tearing it apart this afternoon I think to try to get my engine installed in it. I want to be ready for tractor pulling next spring. I was just curious if anyone has come across a tractor like this before.

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michael crowe

09-28-2000 08:52:54




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 Re: WC prototype tractor?? in reply to Dennis Schmidke, 09-12-2000 10:34:19  
I am not a WC enthusiast, but I am an AC collector (mostly WD45 tractors and implements). If what you have is a 1933 WC, they only made 33 of them, so for the sake of preserving the old really rare tractors, please don't cut it up and make a puller out of it. As most of the guys have said, they will pay you money and give you another WC that is not rare that will do the same thing. That way, both people win. You can have a WC puller and the serious collector can covet that rare 33WC. Not trying to preach but rather to preserve the orange. michael crowe. Call me if you want to discuss. (816) 471-4100 days

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Greenhorn

09-22-2000 19:57:00




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 Re: WC prototype tractor?? in reply to Dennis Schmidke, 09-12-2000 10:34:19  
OK, I'm still on the edge of my chair. Is it a confirmed WC with a Waukesha engine (like finding the Lost Dutchman Gold Mine) or is this Creative Writing 101?



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Fred Wilke

09-19-2000 18:22:04




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 Re: WC prototype tractor?? in reply to Dennis Schmidke, 09-12-2000 10:34:19  
Please call, collect if you like. Your 1933 has me excited that another has been located. My phone is 717-633-5288, evenings. I think I can make a sale worth your while. E-mail your phone to me, I will call you. Thanks Fred wilke



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Fred Wilke

09-19-2000 18:14:26




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 Re: WC prototype tractor?? in reply to Dennis Schmidke, 09-12-2000 10:34:19  
Hi, my name is Fred Wilke. I specialize in WCs. My search for a 33 is several years old now. Turned up a couple that other collectors have and that is fine. What would it take to purchase this tractor? I will include another WC or WD in with the deal so you still have one to make into a pulling tractor. I have a JD 730D or 1937 G that I would trade, if that interest you. I am in Hanover Pa. My number is 717-633-5288 evenings. Please call. Hope I am not to late. Have a great day.

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DBowersPhx

09-17-2000 19:01:21




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 Re: WC prototype tractor?? in reply to Dennis Schmidke, 09-12-2000 10:34:19  
Zing



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Fred Wilke

09-19-2000 18:05:17




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 Re: Re: WC prototype tractor?? in reply to DBowersPhx, 09-17-2000 19:01:21  
I have been searching for a 33 WC for several years now to complete a collection of WCs. I would like to buy this tractor and can give you any year WC or WD as well to fulfill your requirements for a pulling tractor. What would it take to make the purchase or trade. I have some JD tractors that I would trade as well. A 730D or a 1937 G. Does that do anything for you? Please respond.



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carroll

09-16-2000 20:32:12




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 Re: WC prototype tractor?? in reply to Dennis Schmidke, 09-12-2000 10:34:19  
Fred Wilke is looking for one of these. he is even offering a finders fee. this tractor is a 1933, with a flat head waukesha, four spoke steering wheel, probably worth 5 to 10 grand. cp



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Darrell (MN)

09-12-2000 18:33:28




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 Re: WC prototype tractor?? in reply to Dennis Schmidke, 09-12-2000 10:34:19  
Dennis, look at the rear axle housing for the serial number. With the serial number we can tell you better what you have. Is there any way you can e-mail me pictures of this tractor? Let me know.



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Matt Pehl

09-28-2000 07:47:30




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 Re: Re: WC prototype tractor?? in reply to Darrell (MN), 09-12-2000 18:33:28  
I would have to say that you sure are full of it Dennis. If this is creative writing 101, and this is not true if you really exist, and try coming to an allis show with this tractor, as a puller, or not even this tractor at all I would suspect many allis guys mad at you for falseifing something that is a serious matter. Would the serial number happen to Number 1 also, and did you find it in its originial shipping crate. Because it isn't a good lie with out all of that. I hope you have learned your lesson. And I hope we don't see this tractor as a puller. Thanks, Matt Pehl

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Rob

09-12-2000 15:57:19




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 Re: WC prototype tractor?? in reply to Dennis Schmidke, 09-12-2000 10:34:19  
it sounds to be a very early wc.....and if you only gave $100 for it you stole it, restore this one and find your self another to make a puller out of



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Dean

09-12-2000 15:45:06




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 Re: WC prototype tractor?? in reply to Dennis Schmidke, 09-12-2000 10:34:19  
Please do not take your tractor apart, as it is
very rare. It is indeed an original A-C, one of
the first ones built. It was built by A-C in
1933 with the Waukesha engine The frame had to be
cut out to fit the engine, and there was no Allis-
Chalmers letters on the radiator. By 1934 A-c was using their own overhead valve engine. Buy a later WC with the overhead valve engine
for your puller, but keep this one together, as it
is worth big bucks

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I am not game

09-12-2000 10:53:51




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 Re: WC prototype tractor?? in reply to Dennis Schmidke, 09-12-2000 10:34:19  
April fools day is a ways off, or a ways back, anyway, aint today



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