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Another C governor question

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Duane

03-26-2000 17:48:09




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Before I replace my governor I need a little more information. My governor appears to be an earlier model (tractor is a 1941) because according to the manual the earlier models had a 10-24 screw in the magneto gear hub, which mine does. It also has a thrust bearing but no governor shaft bushing, which goes between the thrust bearing and the cross shaft. All diagrams I have seen have this bushing so should mine have it also? What would be the result if I am missing this bushing? Also, I do not have a surge spring which I believe is causing the erradic (sp) behavior of my carburator. If these two missing parts will fix my problem then I will just get them. Is there a place that sells governor parts or do you have to get the whole thing? I seek the wisdom of my fellow tractor guys. Thanks.

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D13

04-02-2000 07:02:47




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 Re: Another C governor question in reply to Duane, 03-26-2000 17:48:09  
Geez Duane this sounds way too much like My C. The external surge spring by the carb will be of very little help - it was deleted in late models because it only helps control mild surges at medium throttle. My C would run fine for a couple of minutes then surge like crazy. I eventually swapped it for a WC, but I believe the problem was poor intake sealing (which caused a lean condition and then the surge). Adding a load would just make the surge worse. I have my B cgoverner apart, it also has the screw. The bearing set for the arm rests directly on the weights, the washer was probably for wear as my weight tips show a fair amount. There is a bushing in the cover for the end of the shaft, one in the housing for the unit (note - remove the screw or you can't get the unit out of that bushing), but no washer where you are seeing one. perhaps this was deleted too. Good luck.

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Duane

04-02-2000 19:07:29




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 Re: Re: Another C governor question in reply to D13, 04-02-2000 07:02:47  
Thanks, D13. After reading your reply and looking at my diagram again I realized that I initially read the diagram wrong. I see the bushing in my governor cover and I think that is the one I thought was missing. My interpretation of the diagram was that that front bushing slid on the shaft in the same manner as the bearing (between the bearing and the fork) when in fact it was the bushing in the cover. Good news for me! I am going to try the surge spring to see if it helps. Thanks for your input.

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Dick L

03-26-2000 20:01:16




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 Re: Another C governor question in reply to Duane, 03-26-2000 17:48:09  

I don't have a diagram so I'm not sure what bushing your refering to. The only bushing that I know of would be the one in your cover that the shaft runs in. The only spring for this type of a govener is external on top of the cover. There is a light spring on the carb linkage. The bearing on the inside, that runs against the fork has a spacer that goes between the govener weights and the fork. ( this might be what your seeing in the diagram) If your shaft is not bad, and the bearing is good, and the weights are free but not sloppy, your problem is most likely not under the cover.
I would suspect something simple like a carb adjustment or broken external springs. I hope this helps but let us know in any case.

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Duane

03-27-2000 16:09:57




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 Re: Re: Another C governor question in reply to Dick L, 03-26-2000 20:01:16  
Dick, you say the bearing has a spacer that goes between the governor weights and the fork; this may be the part I am missing but just for clarification, is there a bearing AND and a spacer (called a bushing in my diagram) that goes between the governor weights and the fork? Again, all of the diagrams I have show a spacer (bushing) between the bearing and the fork but mine does not have this. Without this spacer I would assume that the governor weights have to push the bearing further just to get the fork arm to move. Also, the weights are a little sloppy but I am not sure how much play is allowed.

Thanx.

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