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Joe Permuko

05-15-2008 19:12:25

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the model c is giving me trouble, i put a charged battery in, fresh gas with dry gas added to try and un-gum carb, i checked each spark plug and each is firing, i dont know the firing order nor do i know the order of cylinders, so im not able to check that. i took the valve cover and turned it over with the crank and they are all moving, spraying starting fluid into the air intake doesnt help and all it does is backfire, other than loosing the drain in the bottom of the carb how do i find out if the carb is getting gas? im also trying to start it using the hand crank, and although i dont mind giving my forearm a good workout, i dont want to be cranking for hours when its not gonna start anyway...

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05-15-2008 21:31:30

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 Re: problems starting tractor in reply to Joe Permuko, 05-15-2008 19:12:25  
Manuals for that tractor are available lots of places.. no excuse not to own one.. and no excuse to let that be why you don't know how your cyl's are numbered. I wouldn't walk within 5' of a hand crank tractor if i didn't know for certain it was setup correctly with fire order... I don't feellike having the crank snatched out of my hand.

you got the iron.. now get the paper.


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Joe Permuko

05-15-2008 20:09:25

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 Re: problems starting tractor in reply to Joe Permuko, 05-15-2008 19:12:25  
thanks for the help old, i dont really know alot about old tractors, im just getting into this restoration and trying to get it to run, once i can get it to move its goin to a guy that works on our lawn tractors to have things done right

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05-15-2008 20:59:55

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 Re: problems starting tractor in reply to Joe Permuko, 05-15-2008 20:09:25  
Just be careful because as I said they can/will brake your arm if all is not right BTDT and believe me its not fun when one kicks back and your arm is in the way

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05-15-2008 19:37:00

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 Re: problems starting tractor in reply to Joe Permuko, 05-15-2008 19:12:25  
Well first off if you don't know the firing order or which is #1 cylinder your in big trouble. #1 is the front of the engine. I.E. the one by the radiator. As for the firing order its on the side of the engine or its also 1243 and if wrong will back fire, kick back and brake your arm and will not want to start. As far as the gas to the carb yes the drain plug is the way to check for gas at the carb but the plug over the main jet is the way to see if its getting to the main jet. If the carb if gummed up and you know it is bite the bullet and rebuild it before you do brake your arm

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