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The good, the bad, and the ugly!

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Fredd

05-10-2008 08:18:59




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The good:
A few weeks ago I posted about having milky oil in a WD45...well, turned out that #4 is leaking around the sleeve. The cost of a rebuild kit, and machining that I can not do is about $800. So, I was looking in the Lancaster Farmer and saw a WD45, so I thought, well, for another thousand, I might as well, have another tractor, if nothing else, for parts. Turns out..the tractor was in beautiful shape, new tires around, with excellent original paint, spring loaded reverse, working lights, and very tight transmission and steering. So I brought it home! I will post pics as soon as I figure out how...

The bad:
Not long after unloading the new(er) WD45, I was using my WC and noticed oil pressure seemed a litle low. Checked the oil and found plenty, so went on using it, until the oil pressure gauge went back to the 0 line. Well, seems like this is a problem, so I shut if off and pulled it over to the gargage. Last night I dropped the oil pan, and found that everything looked ok. No gear problems or problems with the screen on the sump. I am a little lost as to what the problem is? Is there anything that makes the pump work internally that could have died? Any help appreciated!
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morton

05-12-2008 18:39:20




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 Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly! in reply to Fredd, 05-10-2008 08:18:59  
Fredd, seeing that you found the 45 out of lancaster farming, where are you located? I am located in lancaster county. Shoot me an e-mail. Mabe we"re not too far apart from eachother.



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Michigan Tom

05-10-2008 17:59:19




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 Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly! in reply to Fredd, 05-10-2008 08:18:59  
Fredd, Another potential option for increasing oil pressure is to install a shim or two between the cap screw and the spring on the oil pump relief valve. This is accessible on the side of the engine. Tom



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Fredd

05-10-2008 15:31:47




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 Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly! in reply to Fredd, 05-10-2008 08:18:59  
Sorry guys for the poor wording. I changed the oil and filter on WD45#2 and it is working fine! Problem is with WC which we have had since my grandfather bought it. I use 15-40W oil in it and genuine Agco filters, which they have now revised and no longer come with the stick in the middle. This combination has worked fine for me for about 40 years now. I am figuring it is the oil pump but I don't know which part. THanks!

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Texas Denny

05-10-2008 12:12:24




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 Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly! in reply to Fredd, 05-10-2008 08:18:59  
Fredd. first, your fixing of WD-45 #1 should cost less than $100. It sounds like the seal rings on the base of the #4 cylinder have failed. This is common. The seal rings cost about $2 each (2 per cylinder). You would need a new pan gasket and a new head gasket which might cost $40. I think it could be running again as low as $60. Email if you need assistance buying parts. This site sells a rebuild kit (no crank work) for $365. Crank regrind and bearings could run $180. But you don't need to spend all of that money to get it in service. I have a good source of reasonably priced parts. Email me.

There is a possibility that you have a cracked block. If you haven't had an experience with freezing water in the block or serious over heating it is unlikely.

As for #2 WD-45, Old gives excellent advice on the filter. A note on my desk says it is Fram 159. Several filters claim they are a replacement but they will NOT work. The right filter is stuffed with a material like cotton with a stick pushed in the middle. When you put it on the tractor, remove the stick and put the rod sticking up from the filter base into the vacated hole from the stick. If the rod is missing, you'll need to find one - don't run it without the rod as there will be no oil pressure.

Conceivably the bearings are so worn out that they can't sustain pressure after warming up. Maybe, but usually not. You might also change the oil with 20W50 motor oil. The oil might be shot.

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Fredd

05-10-2008 15:37:11




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 Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly! in reply to Texas Denny, 05-10-2008 12:12:24  
I understand that fixing the o-ring is not a big problem, but.....If I am going to tear the head off, then I am the type that is going to give it a complete overhaul. One cylinder uses a little oil so I want to put in new sleves, pistons, rings, bearings, have the crank turned, cam bearings, new valves and valve guides, and then put it back together. I will overhaul the head and motor, and while at it put a new clutch in because th the one that is in there is about shot and I think slips a little sometimes. That is why my estimated cost is so high. The way my finances are right now, it just made more sense to buy a less wore out tractor! Thanks

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Oldcraneguy

05-10-2008 12:10:11




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 Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly! in reply to Fredd, 05-10-2008 08:18:59  
Just curious, did you pull the fitting or sender out of the engine and crank it to make sure it wasnt a gauge problem? Ive had gauges lie to me before, especially electric ones...just a thought...Don



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old

05-10-2008 09:12:46




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 Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly! in reply to Fredd, 05-10-2008 08:18:59  
Pull your oil filter off and make sure the little pipe that goes in side of it hasn't come loose. If it has come loose that can/will drop your oil pressure. Also you have to have the correct type of filter or pressure will be low or even have nene



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