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Allis B front oil seal

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carbonfibers

05-05-2008 05:42:01




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I have the radiator, crankshaft pulley and the radiator support off of the tractor. I am changing the thermostat and the valve cover gasket. I noticed that the front oil seal leaks a few drops after the engine is stopped.

I want to change it out. Is there any special procedures to follow or just pop it out and in as any other oil seal? None of my manuals have a detailed procedure.




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El Toro

05-05-2008 16:31:00




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 Re: Allis B front oil seal in reply to carbonfibers, 05-05-2008 05:42:01  
Your local Napa store should have a speedi-sleeve & seal. This will give the new seal a smooth surface to contact. Hal



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Dick L

05-05-2008 06:56:12




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 Re: Allis B front oil seal in reply to carbonfibers, 05-05-2008 05:42:01  
If it already has a lip type seal and you can not see the edge of a speedy sleeve the crankshaft probably has the spiral grooves. A new seal will leak after running also thru that spiral groove.



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carbonfibers

05-05-2008 07:00:31




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 Re: Allis B front oil seal in reply to Dick L, 05-05-2008 06:56:12  
I do not think it has a sleeve. I will check when I am at the shop. Are you saying a new seal will not help without a sleeve and it is normal for a few drops to leak after topping the engine?

Thanks,
Wayne



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Dick L

05-05-2008 11:41:11




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 Re: Allis B front oil seal in reply to carbonfibers, 05-05-2008 07:00:31  
Normal if it is not repaired correctly. I would not want to call an oil leak normal.



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Carbonfibers

05-05-2008 13:07:54




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 Re: Allis B front oil seal in reply to Dick L, 05-05-2008 11:41:11  
I am planning on using an original cork seal if I can find one. If not I will use the lip seal. If I use a lip seal should I put a sleeve on it? What is your opinion?

Wayne



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DickL

05-05-2008 18:21:13




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 Re: Allis B front oil seal in reply to Carbonfibers, 05-05-2008 13:07:54  
What you just said. If it has the cork seal now you are all set. I did have cork seal out in the shop if I didn't throw it away. If you do not have a cork seal in the tractor it will be hard to find the seal retainer to put a new seal in. I have never saved those retainers.



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carbonfibers

05-07-2008 06:10:05




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 Re: Allis B front oil seal in reply to DickL, 05-05-2008 18:21:13  
I apparently have the original cork seal on the crankshaft. Do you have any experience with an after market felt faced seal with neoprene?

If I use the felt faced seal, is it necessary to remove the retainer or just leave it on the shaft? I do not want to pull the cover off. Since I have not removed the old seal, I am not sure if I can extract the inner retainer with out removing the cover.

I will purchase the cork seal from you if you want to sell it.

Thanks,
Wayne

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Jeff Z.

05-05-2008 06:25:46




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 Re: Allis B front oil seal in reply to carbonfibers, 05-05-2008 05:42:01  
Nothing fancy about it. It just presses into the timing gear cover. Put some lube on it so it's not dry on the crankshaft.



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