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D-17 Diesel

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Welding man

04-19-2008 07:57:31

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Does anyone where to get energy cells for a D-17 Diesel with a 262 CI buda engine ? thanks in advance.

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04-19-2008 16:56:29

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 Re: D-17 Diesel in reply to Welding man, 04-19-2008 07:57:31  

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cadet trooper

04-19-2008 15:05:32

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 Re: D-17 Diesel in reply to Welding man, 04-19-2008 07:57:31  
Correct me if I"m wrong but the proper word is indirect versus direct injection usually identified by the way the fuel nozzle is located in the head indirect or fuel cell is mounted in the side i.e. Case and the old Buda and others or direct i.e. JD, IH and later AC engines etc. is that correct? I think this was to allow a small chamber to compress quickly and cause combustion and thus ignite the cylinder at a lower compression,this was supposed to also reduce fuel consumption.I think CT

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04-19-2008 18:35:22

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 Re: D-17 Diesel in reply to cadet trooper, 04-19-2008 15:05:32  
Thanks that's where I was trying to go with precombustion. Was suppose to do exactly that and the theory was less strain with lower pressures.

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Texas Denny

04-19-2008 09:11:45

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 Re: D-17 Diesel in reply to Welding man, 04-19-2008 07:57:31  
Energy Cell? The 262 Buda has injectors and air heaters. My parts book does not show an energy cell. I've never had a diesel with an energy cell. Is that something like a glow plug?

If you are looking for injectors, I believe you can get them from AGCO Allis but they might be quite expensive. You can take them to a diesel shop and have them rebuilt a lot cheaper - rebuilt means thoroughly cleaned and the seat refinished.

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Welding man

04-19-2008 09:53:22

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 Re: D-17 Diesel in reply to Texas Denny, 04-19-2008 09:11:45  
Buda -Case -Moline- and Oliver all used energy cells in their Lanova style heads. You need to remove them from time to time and clean the carbon out of them.I am completely rebuilding this engine. I broke one yesterday while pulling it out, and need a replacement.

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Texas Denny

04-19-2008 12:45:17

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 Re: D-17 Diesel in reply to Welding man, 04-19-2008 09:53:22  
I checked the parts manual and now see what you are talking about. I didn't take these out when I went through the injectors. I'd check with AGCO Allis. Other parts that I bought for the diesel system were reasonably priced. I don't know if they have those items.

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04-19-2008 09:18:25

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 Re: D-17 Diesel in reply to Texas Denny, 04-19-2008 09:11:45  
Energy cells(Case called them PowerCel) was a precombustion chamber, (not right but close) that the injector shot into as opposed to direct injection.

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