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scott reid

03-17-2008 12:07:27




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What do I need to do to the governor on an engine out of a gleaner E combine when putting it into a WC Allis Chalmers tractor. Trying to put together a decent pulling tractor. Thanks.

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slowsmoke

03-18-2008 15:27:36




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 Re: gleaner engine in allis chalmers in reply to scott reid, 03-17-2008 12:07:27  
Throttle lever on the combine overrides the governor, and closes the butterfly. throttle lever on a tractor changes the tension on the governor springs, and gives you full range for load/power. Gov. on combine is a "min/max" style, not "full range" I beleive you need to change the front cover on the engine, to get the tractor governor control.



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mlpankey

03-18-2008 18:42:04




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 Re: gleaner engine in allis chalmers in reply to slowsmoke, 03-18-2008 15:27:36  
i have the gleanor front timing cover c gov e gleaner spring and full range of throttle didnt have full range until got rid of e gov. if you choose to change the front cover youll have to find a d17 cover the crank snout is larger in diameter.



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mlpankey

03-18-2008 07:32:03




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 Re: gleaner engine in allis chalmers in reply to scott reid, 03-17-2008 12:07:27  
the sprng attaches to the lever thats housed in the front timing cover its not physically part of the gov . it does raise the rpms because the fly weights have to generate more force to push the thrust bearing against the fork to over come the spring . the gov weight ramps are different on a gleanor or power unit than a tractor. trust me on this on been pulling a wd for a while . i can run as high rpms as 5500 and as low as 1400 rpms pulling with gov. intake.i use a wc gov with a gleanor spring or a 175 spring which ever i have at the time and on occasion a d 17 spring usually pulls down lower with d 17 spring though.

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Jack a

03-18-2008 04:46:19




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 Re: gleaner engine in allis chalmers in reply to scott reid, 03-17-2008 12:07:27  
The spring is different and is hooked in a different spot. Take a look at the WC gov and then either use that spring hooked up the way it was in the WC or buy a new spring and hook it the same as in the WC. No other parts in the gov need to be changed. Be sure you syncronize the gov to carb. Go by the AC manual not by the IT manual as the IT manual is wrong and your gov won't be as snappy.



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mlpankey

03-17-2008 14:57:13




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 Re: gleaner engine in allis chalmers in reply to scott reid, 03-17-2008 12:07:27  
I think youll like the tractor type governor better . combine govs surge if there not running at high idle . you can try the combine gov it only takes 30 minutes tops to change out to the tractor gov.



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