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bob from ill

03-12-2008 05:16:41

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I've got an 190 diesel. the motor casting says it was made in sept. 1964. just wondering if this would have the same rear from the factory as the d19. i don't beieve it has been torn apart before but it needs a ring and pinion and I found a new one for a d19 and bought it for a song. thanks

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03-12-2008 21:00:05

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 Re: 190 age in reply to bob from ill, 03-12-2008 05:16:41  
My understanding is that they used the same parts, but there were factory updates for the 190. They simply did not stand up to the increase in hp. 190XT Series III was the strongest. Common thing among tractor companies back then- just like IH- good engines, but the TA, transmissions, rear ends were always undersized for the hp. Go to any shop in the last thirty years- what parts of tractors are opened up?

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03-12-2008 17:32:55

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 Re: 190 age in reply to bob from ill, 03-12-2008 05:16:41  
Very well could be, they were supposed to have used left over D19 parts,and that should be one of the first ones; go to the AC page DR ALLIS would know; good luck with the rear end ,I hope its that simple I ve had a few apart and can get very deep!

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cadet trooper

03-12-2008 16:09:52

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 Re: 190 age in reply to bob from ill, 03-12-2008 05:16:41  
For what it's worth my book says the tractor serial number is located on either side of the torque housing for the 190. You may have to scratch some paint off because unless you bought it new and it hasn't been painted it should be there otherwise paint will fill it easily and it will become invisible. You may have a 1964 block but the tractor may be a later version unless you know the history of the tractor. My two cents. I'm not going any further because some people on here get upset by the facts. I've seen this before years ago. CT

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