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Small Rant On Manufacturing, etc....

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loveshisallis

03-11-2008 16:11:04




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I just want to say that it is crazy the hard time I have to find any parts for my tractor made here in the U.S.A. I miss the quality of what I have grown up with and how durable all of our products are.
I am cutting back as far as possible of my buying of anything foreign, and frankly when I see what they "produce" in china, It just makes me laugh. I got a part I thought was made here, found out from china, sent it back. I taught myself blacksmithing instead.
That"s what I think . What about you?

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wolfcoln

04-02-2008 16:19:35




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 Re: Small Rant On Manufacturing, etc.... in reply to loveshisallis, 03-11-2008 16:11:04  
The Labor Unions did not price manufacturing out of this country. It was the Labor Unions that got fair money, hours and conditions for everyone, whether they were union or not.

Next time you wife buys chinese crap from WalMart, just remember who you are supporting, cause it's not the USA. It is the politicians and the Greedy CEO's that rape the workers, steal their pensions and then get a big fat raise when they leave. Why do we pay these CEO"s millions of dollars when they have a failing company, no one else would.

Why does the USA outsorce passport applications instead of taking care of it here. Lord help us if we really get in a war, we won"t be able to make anything here.

Maybe we should look at what we can do here not what we can do in some other country. Does it cost more to buy something made in the USA, sure it does, because we have a higher standard of living and we like to keep living that way.

Keep our jobs and our farms here and God Bless America

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Flewster

03-31-2008 05:13:42




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 Re: Small Rant On Manufacturing, etc.... in reply to loveshisallis, 03-11-2008 16:11:04  
Hey JLM/MINN.............I think he was injecting sarcasm in there..........I could be wrong but that is they way i took it.........For me it is the corp greed and their CEO's........they outsorse all the jobs but you look the CEO's and top staff are still here in America getting BIGGER AND BIGGER salries..........and then the goods they sell are still high priced.........so if it was the Unions and the high labor prices then why are we still paying just as much for the same thing?............The only reasons unions came into being was because the coorp giants mistreated their workers and abused them........it is still the smae today only they are now doing it to foreign workers and still jacking up the prices and keeping the extra in THEIR pockets.........JUST MY .02

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JLM/Minn

03-30-2008 17:22:12




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 Re: Small Rant On Manufacturing, etc.... in reply to loveshisallis, 03-11-2008 16:11:04  
Hey dittmerku!!! I don"t know where OR IF you farm, but WHEN HAVE you gone to the elevato in the past 30/40++ years and TOLD THEM YOU HAD wheat for instance and they had to pay you $10/bu to purchase it!! OR $4.50 for your corn OR $140/cwt for your cattle----I can GUARANTEE theat you would STILL HAVE ALL OF YOUR CATTLE AND CROPS FOR THE PAST 30/40++ years---IF YOUR BANKER would have CARRIED YOU WHICH I DOUBT!!!

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dittmerku

03-16-2008 12:20:15




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 Re: Small Rant On Manufacturing, etc.... in reply to loveshisallis, 03-11-2008 16:11:04  
labor unions priced jobs out of the US pretty much the same way farmers are pricing everything else out, eh? Never seen grain prices so high, making the rest of us Americans pay so much. Just plain greedy farmers.



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Goose

03-13-2008 12:24:16




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 Re: Small Rant On Manufacturing, etc.... in reply to loveshisallis, 03-11-2008 16:11:04  
I kinda have to chuckle at NASCAR racing. The cars consist of Fords, Chevys, Dodges, and Toyotas. The Toyotas are the only ones made here in the U.S.

The Fords are made in Mexico, and the Chevys and Dodges are made in Canada.



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Obsession

03-12-2008 19:11:10




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 Re: Small Rant On Manufacturing, etc.... in reply to loveshisallis, 03-11-2008 16:11:04  
I broke a NAPA "made in China" oil filter wrench the 1st time I used it. Does anyone know where I can buy a decent one. FYI Lifetime warranty on the one I just broke.



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loveshisallis

03-13-2008 07:20:38




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 Re: Small Rant On Manufacturing, etc.... in reply to Obsession, 03-12-2008 19:11:10  
Obsession;

Get a Channellock brand plier type filter wrench . Made here and WILL last.



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DARDAN

03-11-2008 22:59:44




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 Re: Small Rant On Manufacturing, etc.... in reply to loveshisallis, 03-11-2008 16:11:04  
If you're looking for someone to blame, you have to add "our" government.
They regulate, manipulate, and tax buisness about out of buisness, then subsidize their flight out of the country.
The government also floods the ecconomy with valuless money and taxes everything, causing inflation and further driving up domestic prices and need for more wages for workers.
Then some of us buy cheap imports and compound the problem even more.
I was far better off at $2 an hour in '66 than I would be at $15 today, IF I could find it around here.
When upper management takes $multimillion yearly compensation there is little room to complain about the people actualy doing the labor wanting more money.
That's my .02.

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George R. (MN)

03-11-2008 19:40:44




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 Re: Small Rant On Manufacturing, etc.... in reply to loveshisallis, 03-11-2008 16:11:04  
I agree!! The junk that"s produced in China and sold here is pitiful at best. We have tried to buy as much American made products as possible. Of course it"s somewhat hard to do on some items. I mostly agree with Old"s take on it except as I see it it"s got nothing to do with labor unions. It"s plain and simple corporate greed. The cars they make in Mexico where they pay their help 1/10th of what a union auto worker earns doesn"t mean they sell that Mexican made car for less!! Like everything else, obscene profits and corporate greed!! Pigs at the trough!! Just my .02 cents. George

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old

03-11-2008 16:22:48




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 Re: Small Rant On Manufacturing, etc.... in reply to loveshisallis, 03-11-2008 16:11:04  
For the most part we did it to our selfs. Labor unions priced jobs out of the U.S. Plus about 75% of the scrap iron is shipping to china so they then send it back as cheap tools and parts. Just hope they aren't doing as Japan did back in the late 30 and also making weapon that they will send at us also like Japan did on Dec. 7 1941

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wgm

03-16-2008 05:03:01




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 Re: Small Rant On Manufacturing, etc.... in reply to old, 03-11-2008 16:22:48  
Labor unions didn't price jobs out of the US, corporate greed did.



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Jack a

03-12-2008 13:09:24




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 Re: Small Rant On Manufacturing, etc.... in reply to old, 03-11-2008 16:22:48  
I don't know about current Dodge pickups but back in the mid 1990's they were 70% built in Mexico and at the same time were higher priced than a Ford or Chevy that were 80% built here. Yep. Must be the unions in Mexico.



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