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WC Speed Patrol

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Glenn F.

02-28-2008 16:09:31




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Would someone please give me a little background/information on the Speed Patrol. I know very little about them. Were they just WC's? What were they made for? How are they geared? How are they like/unlike the WC? Years made, etc.?


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Glenn F.




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NE IA

02-28-2008 20:34:29




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 Re: WC Speed Patrol in reply to Glenn F., 02-28-2008 16:09:31  
The W's were made 1945-46. 1E-681 to 1E-819 was in 45 and 46 they made 1E-820-1E-1437. If my memory servers me correct they were made in La port and Springfield. I have a repair parts list form TPL-110C says Springfield Ill works tractor division. They offered a scarifier 9 tooth and 9,10,12 ft tiltable, and a 12 ft tiltable and shiftable blade. If you find one the SN/ is located on right front frame rail under the mag approx. Many have had rear ends replaced as they got lots of miles on them. If I remember correct the original rear end S/N that was cast in was distorted at the factory. A person thinks he can remember for ever, but it is a little foggy. I have alot of stuff written down, and someday will update the files.

At Hutchison MN I had a operators manual in my hands, and decided maybe I best save my money. I went back that same afternoon and it was gone. I think the guy probably thought I swiped it because he got very upset, he did not sell it that day, so I no doubt looked guilty. I have never seen a manual since.

Allis did make a belley mounted grader for the WC. It had the narrow front end in all the pictures I ever seen. I have never seen a real one, and I have tried to find one for over thirty years. Probably getting time to give up, but always will be hopefull.

As you can guess from the years the W's were made that they were all styled like the WC streamline modles. Same tractor as the WC with a wide front end, a wishbone for the blade to hook up to, two big wheels like the old horse drawn graders to raise and lower the blade. From the factory I think they all had the thick lug road grader type rear tires, and the fronts had a rib tire. Two different manifolds, and a clutch add on to put another pedal on the floor board / platform of the tractor to operate while standing. You would use the regular foot clutch pedal while sitting. Front wheels had like a wheel weight in their casting.

There are a few W's around yet, and work pretty good once you realize they are made for grading and not tearing up a hard packed gravel road. When you run them you do not have enough hands to swat flies at the same time.

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Joe M(GA)

02-29-2008 02:51:11




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 Re: WC Speed Patrol in reply to NE IA, 02-28-2008 20:34:29  
NE IA, only 411 of the narrow front "maintainers" were made, I've been around Allis tractors my whole life and only saw one. That was this year at the "Gathering of the Orange" in NC. Very, Very, Rough, but still rare!
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Joe M(GA)

02-29-2008 02:52:10




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 Re: WC Speed Patrol in reply to Joe M(GA), 02-29-2008 02:51:11  
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NE IA

02-29-2008 12:01:46




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 Re: WC Speed Patrol in reply to Joe M(GA), 02-29-2008 02:52:10  
Joe, you have made my day, thank you so much for your effort. I know the price was probably out of my game, but any idea what the price was?



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old

02-28-2008 20:46:21




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 Re: WC Speed Patrol in reply to NE IA, 02-28-2008 20:34:29  
I would love to know where you get your info. I have a 1947 WC Speed patrol and I'm always looking for more info on it.



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NE IA

02-29-2008 12:31:49




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 Re: WC Speed Patrol in reply to old, 02-28-2008 20:46:21  
Old, I know we have discused this before on what you have or do not have. If you research WC patrol you are grading the wrong road. You plain and simple have a W Speed Patrol. Form TPL-110C shows the exact same tractor as your web site. I certianly do not intend to offend your judgment, nor start anything here. This web site gets enough of that without me adding to the fuel. I know I was gifted with good looks, and not so good on using the correct words, so sorry if I offend.

If I can get my son to scan my parts manual I will have him do so. If his schedule is to busy I can mail a copy to you at no cost. Perhaps the later idea would get you the information alot faster. My sons are all pretty good guys, but dad is seldom on the front of the to do lists.

If you do not care to post your mailing address please mail it to me at. Dave Bacon PO box 84 Garnavillo, Iowa 52049. Or phone 563-964-2670 Spring projects are finaly getting started, so I wish I had done this during our cold weather.

I have copied material over the years, and have little or no idea of the sorce. My family frowns on my hobby, and I have a real idea what will happen when I'm gone. They have no idea of the cost to keep their camp fire burning with old tractor information. I am very limited on the W information.

Some information I also have shows a W Speedage 1935 = TW1 to TW 10 then 1936 =13 to 37, and last 1937= 38 to 87. The information was copied and a smudge the total length of the paper makes it hard to understand. My closest guess is that it may well be TW Speedage as the SN/ would also suggest. I have tried with a magnifying glass to better understand, but nothing obveous.

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old

02-29-2008 13:55:30




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 Re: WC Speed Patrol in reply to NE IA, 02-29-2008 12:31:49  
I'll give you a call tonight unless I get to busy with things



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old

02-28-2008 18:31:45




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 Re: WC Speed Patrol in reply to Glenn F., 02-28-2008 16:09:31  
Same engine and transmission as the WC tractors. All they did was cut the frame rials and extend them and install a wide front and the n the blade set up under the belly. They work well but they also take 8 arms to run. Guess how I know. Yep I own one and use it all the time to maintain my 1.5 mile drive way and it does a good job. Pictures in my web page. Want more info just ask

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